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JEFFERSONVILLE, INDIANA
November 17, 2025
Regular Meeting Minutes
The Common Council of the City of Jeffersonville, Indiana met for the Regular Meeting on November 17,
2025. Council President Stoner along with City Clerk Gill called the meeting to order at 6:00 p.m.The
meeting was open to the public in person as well as live streamed via the City Website using Zoom.
INVOCATION:
Led by Council Vice President Burns
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE:
ROLL CALL:
The roll call was conducted by City Clerk Lisa Gill and present in Council Chambers were Councilperson
White, Council Vice President Burns, Councilperson Semones, Councilperson Anderson, Council
President Stoner, Councilperson Reed, Councilperson Webb. Councilperson Hawkins and Councilperson
Snelling were absent. Let the record reflect that 7 Council Members were present in Council Chambers
with 2 absent.
Daniel Walters, Council Youth Advisor was present for the proceedings.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES:
Council Vice President Burns made a motion to approve the Minutes for Regular Proceedings on
11/3/2025, seconded by Councilperson Reed; motion passed, 7-0.
APPROVAL OF AGENDA:
Council Vice President Burns made a motion to approve the agenda, seconded by Councilperson
Anderson; motion passed,7-0.
CLAIMS TO APPROVE:
Civil City$994,039.45
Councilperson Reed made a motion to approve the Civil City Claims, seconded by Councilperson Webb;
motion passed, 7-0.
Parks$ 130,067.07
Council Vice President Burns made a motion to approve the Parks Claims, seconded by Councilperson
Semones; motion passed, 7-0.
REPORT OF THE CLERK:
Mrs. Gill began by extending a warm Thanksgiving greetings to all. She then detailed the schedule for
the upcoming December 1st meeting packet, announcing it would be distributed early on Monday,
November 24th. This pre-Thanksgiving distribution date was chosen because City offices will be closed
on the Wednesday,Thursday, and Friday of that week, ensuring that all members receive the necessary
materials promptly before any holiday travel. Mrs. Gill concluded by confirming she would send a
reminder email regarding the packet distribution as the date approaches.
REPORT OF THE YOUTH ADVISOR:
Youth Advisor Daniel Walters presented a new idea he has been developing: a four-step course designed
to focus on leadership and addressing various community problems such as vaping and smoking, in
addition to standard leadership skills. Mr. Walters informed the Council that he has already emailed a
rough draft of this course idea to each Council member and asked for their feedback on the proposal.
UNFINISHED BUSINESS
1. Les Merkley 2025-OR-50 An Ordinance Declaring River Ridge Police Non-Reverting Fund as
Dormant&Transferring Said Funds to the General Fund.
Council President Stoner brought forward Ordinance 2025-OR-50, which declares the River
Ridge Police Non-Reverting Fund as dormant, and there would be a transfer of its remaining
balance into the General Fund. President Stoner noted that this ordinance had already passed
on its 1st and 2nd reading at the previous meeting. He clarified for the Council that the money
transferred into the General Fund is scheduled to be re-appropriated later in the meeting under
New Business and that the funds are for police buybacks.
Council Vice President Burns made a motion to approve the Ordinance, 2025-OR-50, seconded
by Councilperson Webb; motion passed, 7-0 on the 3`d and final reading.
2. Les Merkley 2025-OR-51 An Ordinance Amending 2012-OR-62 & Establishing the Police Non-
Reverting Fund for the City of Jeffersonville.
Council President Stoner presented Ordinance 2025-OR-51, which amends Ordinance 2012-62
and establishes the Police Non-Reverting Fund for the City of Jeffersonville. President Stoner
reminded the Council that the ordinance had already passed on the 1st and 2nd reading during
the previous meeting.
Council Vice President Burns made a motion to approve the Ordinance, 2025-OR-51, seconded
by Councilperson Anderson; motion passed, 7-0 on the 3`d and final reading.
3. Heather Metcalf 2025-OR-52 (PUBLIC HEARING) Ordinance of Additional Appropriation
Council President Stoner stated that Heather Metcalf 2025-OR-52 would include a public
hearing and noted that it had been passed on the 1st and 2nd reading at the previous meeting.
He explained that the first portion of the ordinance is for the 1Sl investment for economic
development, while the second portion covers the Parks appropriations. He thanked Parks
Director Paul Northam for attending and explained that the unbudgeted surplus dollars now
need to be appropriated. He added that Director Northam had informed the council that the
Parks Department intends to invest these funds in needed infrastructure improvements at
various locations throughout the city, President Stoner then gave Director Northam the floor.
Parks Director Paul Northam thanked the council and explained that he could answer any
questions regarding the source and use of the funds. He stated that the money came from
refunds and reimbursements that had accumulated over the past ten to twelve years without
the department's awareness. After meeting with the controller about a month earlier to search
for available dollars, he learned that these funds existed. He said the plan is to move the money
into professional services and use it for infrastructure improvements such as restriping parking
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lots at locations including the Worldly Athletic Complex, Vissing Park, and others where the
striping has faded. He also noted that several areas, like the Ken Ellis and Envision Center
parking lots, have potholes that need repair. Additionally, any remaining funds may be used for
park benches or picnic tables, he concluded by opening the floor for any questions from the
council.
Councilperson Reed asked about Inman Park, which had messed up swings. Assistant Director of
Parks, Amber Ridings quickly answered that it was already being addressed. Councilperson
White then asked what the professional services were for and if they were for hiring people to
fill the potholes and stripe the parking lots. Director Northam confirmed that to be correct, it
would be used to pay contactors for both services. Councilperson White then followed up with
asking why the city's Street Department couldn't provide those services. Director Northam
responded with that it might simply be because he had not asked. He explained that with the
recent budget cuts, he wasn't sure whether that type of work would still fit within the other
departments' budgets, but he could inquire. He added that there are other uses for the funds as
well and that the examples he mentioned were only a few possibilities.
Council President Stoner asked if there were any additional questions from the Council, which
there were none. President Stoner then proceeded to open the public hearing at 6:09 PM for
anyone to speak for or against 2025-OR-52. No one stepped forward to speak for or against,
Council President Stoner then closed the public hearing at 06:09.
Council Vice President Burns made a motion to approve the Ordinance, 2025-OR-52, seconded
by Councilperson Reed; motion passed, 7-0 on the 3`d and final reading.
NEW BUSINESS:
l PUBLIC COMMENTS: None
1. IEDC Jeff Boat Grant
Councilperson White explained that he had placed the item on the agenda because in previous
meetings he had asked the administration for clarification regarding the IEDC grant. He
referenced a Facebook post made by the administration on the Jeffersonville website, which
included a link to a news article featuring an interview with the mayor, and noted that he
subsequently received questions about it (see attachment). He asked whether the mayor was
present on Zoom, explaining that he had sent the login information, and was then informed that
no one from the administration had joined. Councilperson White remarked that the mayor had
refused to inform the council, calling it unfortunate, especially since the mayor had spoken to
the newspaper about the topic. He went on to clarify what he had been able to determine that
the City of Jeffersonville did not receive the grant. Instead, the IEDC awarded the grant to ACBL
and Thrive, the private partners developing the Jeffboat property. He stressed that this is not a
city-led development; ACBL owns the property and has partnered with Thrive for
redevelopment, while the city's role will primarily involve zoning changes as needed. He added
that redevelopment has pledged roughly$8 million for infrastructure,though that commitment
has not yet been formalized. Councilperson White emphasized for the public, that the property
is privately owned and will be privately developed, and that the $20 million grant was awarded
to ACBL—not to the city. The city did not apply for the grant, though it did submit letters of
support. He concluded by expressing disappointment that the mayor chose not to attend the
meeting to offer clarification, noting that while it falls within the mayor's role to handle such
matters, attendance was ultimately his decision.
Council President Stoner thanked Councilperson White and expressed appreciation for all
council members' interest in the topic. He emphasized the transformative nature of the project,
and in his dual role as a council member and redevelopment commissioner, described it as an
exciting initiative with many moving parts. President Stoner clarified that the Lily Endowment
Grant is being administered and distributed directly to ACBL and their selected developer, with
the funds specifically allocated for site preparation. He acknowledged John Launis with 1S1 and
Paul Wheatley of the Wheatley Group for confirming these details, and noted that all council
members should have received an email on November 13th with this information. President
Stoner also confirmed with Controller Heather Metcalf that the grant dollars will not touch city
coffers nor be administered or distributed by the City of Jeffersonville. He concluded by stating
that, as council president, he is maintaining close and open dialogue with relevant experts and
looks forward to inviting representatives to provide an update to the council in the near future
before opening the floor for further discussion. Councilperson Webb commented that there is
likely someone at ACBL who has more detailed knowledge about how the grant will work.
President Stoner explained that he has been in communication with ACBL, who have indicated a
willingness to appear before the council in the near future to provide an update and answer any
questions. He acknowledged that the grant is just one component of a larger project with many
moving parts, as mentioned before. Councilperson Reed commented that the project would at
4 some point come before planning and zoning, to which Councilperson White added that it
would probably come before the council as well with some inter-local agreements. There was no
further discussion.
2. Zach Stewart 2025-OR-53 Ordinance Amending 2008-R-18 Resolution Establishing a Merit
Board for JFD (As Amended 2009-R-18&2011-OR-45 (Ordinance Reaffirming the Authority
of the Jeffersonville Fire Merit Commission)
Zach Stewart, the attorney for the Fire Merit Commission: "So I think, and I can answer any
questions about what the ordinance is actually doing. Essentially the merit board voted to
request by resolution that council consider amending the local ordinance that created the merit
commission to allow the commission to establish essentially a second applicant list.This list
would work very much in the same way as the police officers experience lists, basically for
lateral transfers from other departments. After presentations from the chief at the merit
commission meetings, there were some meetings with the administration and the union about
what this might look like, that has not been finalized yet. So you would not be essentially
approving a specific process. You would merely be granting the merit commission the authority
to begin to look at what that process would look like. We haven't finalized anything, but
essentially, the statute does not permit us to go outside of what this body has approved in the
enabling ordinance. So the enabling ordinance that exists currently, which I believe dates all the
way back to 2008-R-29, essentially created the merit commission. And it only allows for
applications to be submitted, reviewed, and accepted based on the statutory process that exists.
You would essentially be approving a corollary process, but a non-statutory process that works
alongside the current applicant eligibility list. If there's questions about why the administration,
I think initially requested this, and what the discussions were about the needs of the
department, I think the chief, who is here, can answer any of those questions."
Shawn Grant, Chief of the Jeffersonville Fire Department, addressed the council to provide a
brief overview and reasoning for the department's proposed second list. He explained that
some years, there may be only one retirement and thus one opening.Typically, filling that
opening with someone who is not already a firefighter takes about six months to train and get
back on the truck.With the separate list, the department could select an applicant who already
has all of the necessary certifications, conduct a two-week evaluation of their skills, and get
them working immediately. Chief Grant emphasized that within the usual six-month training
period, a lot of overtime is required, including bringing in trainers, and having the second list
provides a cost-saving alternative in the event that there is one or two applicants available.
Councilperson Webb also commented in agreement that it sounded like a huge savings for the
city. Chief Grant further explained that the approach had been effective with the most recent
application list.Two applicants already possessed all required certifications, so the department
conducted a two-week refresher for them and put them on a line. One of the candidates had
previously completed the fire academy, and Chief Grant noted that he was able to get that
individual on a line without any issues. Councilperson Reed commented that, given the current
tight hiring market, the approach was very smart. She noted that it allows the department to
hire personnel more quickly, reducing overtime costs, and also prevents new hires from being
poached by other departments because of the six-month training period.
Mr. Stewart: "My recollection from the meetings with the administration, the merit commission,
and the union, the only concern that I think the union had was, if you look at the reference to, I
think the resolution that was approved by the merit commission, it says Experienced Officer List.
We just want to make it clear that the ordinance that you are approving states Experienced
Firefighter List rather than Officer List.This would not be a list where essentially we would be
moving a lateral transfer from the same rank to a rank in Jeffersonville.They would still go
through our merit process.This would just be a baseline firefighter and it would not supplant
any promotions, processes, or anything that already exist."
Councilperson White asked whether this would allow the merit commission to grant applicants
longevity based on their years of service.
Mr. Stewart: "I think that most merit commissions or safety boards, depending on whether it's a
town, or whether they adopted the recent change in, I think that preference merit commissions
in the last legislative session, I think most of them do. But I think that that would probably be
more of a question for this body."
Councilperson White asked Mr. Stewart to clarify if he was saying that this was something that
the council needed to include in the resolution.
Mr. Stewart: "I think that whether or not they were granted longevity would have much more to
do with the contract that the union negotiates with the city rather than the language inside of
the ordinance or resolution."
Councilperson White was satisfied with Mr. Stewart's response.
Councilperson Semones made a motion to approve the Ordinance, 2025-OR-53 on the 1st and
2' reading, seconded by Councilperson Reed; motion passed, 7-0.
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3. Kara Brown Center for Lay Ministry Funding
President Stoner introduced Kara Brown, noting that she was present to discuss the work of
Center for Lay Ministries in the community. He acknowledged that the discussion was sponsored
by Councilperson Reed and expressed the council's excitement to hear from her.
Councilperson Reed thanked President Stoner and then addressed Kara Brown, beginning by
giving her accolades. She noted that Center for Lay Ministries was named 1SI's Philanthropy of
the Year at the last event due to the significant work they had been doing, including submitting
grant applications and working with local partners. Councilperson Reed highlighted that the
organization was actively doing the work in the community, which she praised as the kind of
effort she loves to see from nonprofit organizations. She emphasized that the council's role is to
add a little bit of good to the work being done. Councilperson Reed shared that when she
reached out to Kara, Kara acknowledged that the community was helping her, but she also
noted that it was not enough and they were just getting by, especially going into the holiday
season. Councilperson Reed noted that some funds were available for this purpose but would
expire at the end of the year. She described Kara as a good friend to many council members and
an amazing person in the community, and she invited Kara to discuss the organization's recent
activities, including delivering services to residents in Clark County who could not go out.
Kara Brown, representing the Center for Lay Ministries, thanked the council for inviting her to
speak. She explained that the organization has been serving the community for more than 55
years and was founded with the purpose of helping feed local neighbors—an effort that
continues to this day. She noted that, in addition to operating its food pantry, the center also
oversees the Bliss House Recovery Program for women. While that program remains an
important part of their mission, her presentation that evening was focused specifically on
funding needs for the food pantry. Ms. Brown reported that demand for food assistance has
continued to rise, a trend consistent with what has been highlighted in recent news coverage.
She shared current data, explaining that in November alone—after only ten operating days—the
pantry had already served 988 households.This equates to an average of approximately 99
households per day seeking food assistance. She then provided the previous month's figures for
comparison. In October, the pantry recorded 1,838 household visits, including 226 first-time
visitors. Ms. Brown emphasized that the number of new households turning to them is still
growing. She added that October 2025 saw roughly 300 more households seeking assistance
than October of the prior year.These increasing numbers, she said, are the reason the center is
asking for financial support. Ms. Brown also highlighted their home-delivery program, explaining
that they currently complete about 50 deliveries per month to residents in Clark County. She
mentioned that the program is essentially at capacity, but assured the council that if calls for
help continue to rise, the center will work to find the resources to keep meeting the need. She
continued with recognizing the strength of their volunteer base. Approximately one hundred
volunteers come in each week, she explained, and their efforts play a vital role in offering hope
and support to the individuals and families who rely on the pantry. Ms. Brown concluded by
asking for the council's support. She noted that the center hosts an annual breakfast and
mentioned that sponsorship opportunities are available for that event, as well as other
fundraising opportunities throughout the year. She offered to reach out to anyone interested in
supporting those efforts and concluded by saying she was available to answer any questions.
Councilperson Reed stated that Kara was asking for$5,000 that evening and that she was willing
to include a sponsorship for the upcoming breakfast next year as part of that request, and Ms.
Brown confirmed that to be correct. Councilperson White then asked around what time of the
year the breakfast is held. Ms. Brown responded that it's usually held around March and April
but the center has not set a date yet because they are still looking for a new location.
Councilperson White commented that the Center for Lay Ministries' operation is behind his law
office, and he sees the work they do every day. He noted that it is always busy, with constant
deliveries and pickups, and told Kara that they do great work. He added that although it was not
what she was there for, they also do a great job maintaining the Bliss House. He commented
that many people do not know it is there, which he said is a good thing for neighbors and others
nearby. He recalled that some time ago the organization expanded and said that he supported
that as well, because he knows the important work they do. He encouraged her to keep up the
good work. There were no further questions or comments from the council.
Council President Stoner made a motion to approve the investment of$5,000 from the
Homeless Fund, seconded by Councilperson Webb; motion passed, 7-0.
4. Evan Stoner Homeless Fund Conversation
Council President Stoner explained that the next conversation was a continuation of the same
agenda item and dealt with the remainder of the money allocated for homelessness resources
for 2025. He reminded the council that earlier in the year they contributed $7,000 to the
community kitchen for upgrades to its stove and kitchen equipment, noting that the need was
significant and the organization was very appreciative. He said they had discussed this topic
before and recalled that in 2024, he led a conversation to the council regarding homelessness
from a high-level perspective, trying to address it comprehensively. He expressed that there was
always more they could be doing and shared his disappointment that they had not yet been able
to fully look at or solve the issue from a comprehensive perspective. However, he acknowledged
that great work was being done in the community. He explained that with the remaining funds,
which he had outlined and researched, there was$42,000 leftover. President Stoner
commented that representatives from Thrive were present to discuss the work they were doing
and his hope was to allocate $30,000 of the remaining funds to Thrive for their case
management work specifically within the City of Jeffersonville. President Stoner also noted that
the council had already allocated $5,000 to the CLM (Center for Lay Ministry) as well as White
Flag and $2,000 to Exit Zero. He clarified that this was something he had put together and
opened the topic for further discussion. He then welcomed the representatives from Thrive—
John Benningfield, Phil, and Abraham Stuckey—and invited them to share information about
Thrive before opening the floor to questions from the council.
Phil Stucky, CEO of Thrive, addressed the council next. He began by thanking the council for
their time and for allowing Thrive to speak. He noted that the Honorable Judge Jacobs was
present and serves as a member of Thrive's board, which he said reflects the strong reputation
and community trust the organization has built. Mr. Stucky explained that one of Thrive's offices
is located at 624 Walnut Street, directly across from the jail. Because of that proximity, he said,
Thrive works closely with individuals exiting incarceration.John Benningfield leads a team that
works full-time inside the jail, and those leaving custody can immediately come across the street
to continue the re-entry process. He then offered congratulations to the Center for Lay
Ministries their most recent award, noting that Thrive had also been nominated. He emphasized
that their partnership is what makes their work possible, particularly with the Bliss House and
other recovery residences. Mr. Stucky also thanked the council for supporting the sober tent at
the Overlook during Thunder Over Louisville.Thrive has operated the tent for the past three
years, providing a safe space for individuals—especially those early in sobriety—during the
event. Abraham Stucky's outreach team handles the cooking, and what began as food support
for people in recovery grew into serving families as well. He recalled that over the past two
years, they handed out roughly 550 hamburgers and hot dogs.
Shifting into an overview of services, Mr. Stucky explained that all Thrive services are free, with
no time limits on participation. They assist people with substance use disorders, those who are
unhoused, and individuals experiencing mental-health challenges. While Thrive's team members
are not clinicians or medical doctors, they connect clients to clinical and medical resources as
needed. He highlighted a major partnership with Origin Park, where Abraham's team proactively
reaches unhoused individuals living in areas slated for construction, working to secure housing
before development displaces them. "Many of those individuals consider those areas their
home" he said, and Thrive aims to provide support before construction becomes a barrier.
Before going over data, Mr. Stucky referenced a recent article by Dr. Yazel reporting that Clark
County's overdose fatality rate has fallen by 51%—a statistic he described as remarkable, and
Thrive was responsible. Thanks to permission from the hospital—formerly Clark Memorial and
now Norton's—they were able install a Narcan vending machine, and they've placed numerous
Narcan boxes in partnership with the health department. From January 1 through October 31,
2025,Thrive had distributed more than 6,600 doses of Narcan in the area.The demand has
been so high, he added, that even first responders occasionally relied on Thrive when they could
not access doses.
Mr. Stucky then presented Clark County-specific data. After confirming with Council President
Stoner that roughly 52,000 county residents live in Jeffersonville, he reported:
4 - 1,300+ intakes completed within Clark County
- 2,194 recovery plans, which he described as critical because individuals without a plan are
twice as likely to recidivate or return to use
- Care coordination, including frequent referrals to food pantries
- 1,200+ unique individuals served, which
- 235+ unhoused individuals assisted
- 263 people placed into treatment
- 108 referrals to mutual-aid meetings (NA, AA, etc.)
- 30+ bicycles distributed, with another 50 in storage,to address transportation barriers
- 156 individuals placed in long-term housing
- 230+ individuals connected with employment
- 54 food-pantry referrals
- 130+ people provided transportation resources
-Through outreach efforts: 3,300+ meals, 52 harm-reduction kits, and 165 care kits distributed
He added that Thrive now serves 17 counties across the state. Despite that scale, he stressed
that money provided for a particular county stays in that county.Thrive originated in Scott
County during the HIV outbreak in 2016 and expanded into Clark County in 2020,during COVID,
when both professionals and non-professionals were struggling with substance use and mental
health issues. Mr. Stucky concluded by saying that this was only a snapshot of Thrive's work over
the past ten months in Clark County, and he invited any questions from the council.
Councilperson Semones asked for clarification, noting that Mr. Stucky had said their services are
provided free of charge to the community. She then asked him to outline the organization's
current funding sources and whether they bill insurance. Mr. Stucky responded that roughly 70
percent of their funding comes from the State of Indiana through DMHA and FSSA. He added
that they also maintain private contracts, such as agreements that place peer coaches in
recovery residences. In addition, the organization also holds an annual fundraiser each year,
which in recent years has been hosted at the Foundry. Councilperson Semones followed up
asking what Thrive's budget was for 2025. Mr.Stucky replied that it was 2.2 million and
confirmed that 70 percent of that was from the state.Councilperson Semones then asked how
much growth has Thrive had in the past 10 years. Mr. Stucky explained that the organization
began nine years ago in Scott County, originally serving just one county, and has since expanded
its coverage to 17 counties. Mr.Stucky emphasized that the need for their services is there. He
noted that people can try to shift things around or push issues aside, but the need remains. In
addition to assisting individuals who are struggling, he explained that the organization also
supports family members, helping them build coping skills and understand how to navigate their
loved one's challenges. He went on to explain that the organization is active in every problem-
solving court they serve. Recently, they acquired five additional counties within the last two
months, expanding their reach even further. From Bartholomew County southward, they are
now present in all problem-solving courts, offering their services entirely free of charge to the
individuals involved. Councilperson Semones asked Mr. Stucky, if the council were to award
funding—up to $30,000—how those dollars would be used. Mr. Stucky explained that the
funding would be used to hire a non-clinical case manager. He said they use the term "non-
clinical" because these staff members are not licensed clinicians.Their role is to help individuals
with basic,essential needs. He continued by sharing several examples of the types of support his
organization already provides. He said they have partnered with Meijer and received a $5,000
grant, along with other small grants, to help cover bed fees and rent for individuals in need.
They also assist people in obtaining crucial documents, including birth certificates. He
emphasized this is especially important because Clark County receives many transient
individuals from other counties and states. Many treatment facilities bring people into the area,
but when those individuals leave treatment,they don't receive help returning home. Because of
that,the organization steps in to help them move forward. Mr. Stucky explained that securing a
birth certificate from states like Texas or California can cost around $50 to $75, so they use small
grants to cover those expenses. Once people have their documents,they can begin applying for
jobs, and he mentioned the State of Indiana provides state Ds for free. He also highlighted their
transportation support, describing a program they offer called "Free Lyft rides". If someone
starts a job, or needs transportation to a doctor's appointment,treatment,or another essential
service,the organization provides the ride at no cost. For example, if a person gets a job at River
Ridge, they will provide rides to and from work every day until the individual is able to save
enough money to cover their own transportation. He added that each person receiving rides is
placed on a recovery plan, which sets goals and outlines expectations—because the
organization cannot provide free transportation indefinitely. For instance, if they can support
someone through the first two weeks of employment, the hope is that the person will be able to
use their first paycheck to begin managing their own transportation needs. Mr. Stucky
emphasized that all of these services are provided free of charge.
Councilperson Reed asked Mr. Stucky how many people, since Thrive began its work in Clark
County in 2020, would he estimate the organization has helped secure housing—either semi-
permanent or permanent. Mr. Stucky responded that he did not have that number readily
available. He explained that if the council would like those figures, he could provide them,
noting that Thrive keeps data dating back to when the organization first began. Councilperson
Reed emphasized that something needed in the area is long-term solutions to housing. She
mentioned these solutions are collaborative between many different organizations and
expressed that she would love to know exactly what the impact on that is so she can understand
better. Mr. Stucky remarked that he thinks it's great, especially when discussing that the
average income in Clark County is around $37,000. He noted the current housing needs and
today's prices, adding that it can be hard even for someone making$20 an hour.
Councilperson White asked if Thrive's fundraiser was "Dope to Hope", which Mr. Stucky
confirmed to be correct. Councilperson White then asked whether, when they encounter people
who are here from other areas, they try to help those individuals return to those places. Mr.
4 Stucky explained that if returning home is the individual's plan, that is why the first thing they
ask is, "What's your plan?" He noted they ask this because sometimes the person may have left
another area due to an unsafe environment. He gave examples such as people coming from
Gary or Fort Wayne, Indiana who left a treatment facility; if they want to go back home, his
organization will get them there. He stated that they have visited all treatment facilities in the
area and told them that if someone leaves their facility, they will provide a free ride home so the
individual isn't left walking out onto the streets. He mentioned that this approach has been
working, although it sometimes requires reinforcing and reminding people about the services
they offer. He added that their first conversation is always about the person's plan and whether
it is safe for them to return, since for many individuals, depending on their trauma, going back
may not be safe. Councilperson White then followed up with asking how much Thrive had raised
in there fundraiser that was just held a few weeks prior, which Mr. replied that the total amount
was around $123,000. Councilperson White continued with confirming that Thrive's budget was
$2.2 million as it was stated earlier in the conversation with Councilperson Semones, and if that
was just for Clark County. Mr. Stucky explained that the $2.2 million budget was not just for
Clark County, but for all 17 counties that Thrive offers services in. Councilperson White then
asked if Mr. Stucky if he had a breakdown for just Clark County. Mr. Stucky replied that for Clark
County alone, without administrative fees, is somewhere around $190,000. He added that this
figure does not include the addition of another nonclinical case manager. Councilperson White
then asked Mr. Stucky if he could explain what he meant by administrative fees. Mr. Stucky
explained that he is the CEO and another individual is a manager, which he considers
administrative roles since they oversee multiple counties. He noted that his pay does not come
from a single county but from several. He clarified that the approximately $190,000 figure refers
only to the staff who work specifically in Clark County. He stated that he has nine employees
working directly in the jail and another six to seven working in the community.
Councilperson Reed asked if Thrive's 990 form could be found on the organization's website,
which Mr. Stucky replied that it was not on their website, but it was public information and
could be found on the IRS website or he could personally provide them. Mr. Stucky agreed with
Councilperson Reed and explained that their organization originally operated as a subsidiary of
the Scott County Partnership, an organization that had been established for quite some time. In
2022, they transitioned into an independent entity, and he noted that their 990 filings are fully
accessible.
Councilperson White asked about the organization's fundraiser, specifically inquiring what the
highest level of sponsorship would be. Mr. Stucky explained that while the top sponsorship level
for their fundraiser is set at $20,000, their most recent event saw the highest contribution of
only$5,000. He noted that this year has been uncertain, with federal and state changes making
donors hesitant to commit large amounts. Mr. Stucky commented that they had received
multiple $5,000 donations which the majority of that consisted of people purchasing things such
as t-shirts and just donating money.
President Stoner spoke up to clarify his perspective, explaining that when discussing the use of
funds, he prefers to invest in programs directly benefiting Jeffersonville. His focus is on
initiatives that help individuals transition off the streets into permanent housing, mental health
care, treatment facilities, or workforce development. He then referenced a prior conversation
about the nonclinical case manager position, asking for confirmation that its annual salary is
approximately$35,000. Mr. Stucky clarified that the annual salary for the nonclinical case
manager position is$52,476 and also included benefits. President Stoner explained that during
earlier conversations with Councilperson Reed and other council members, they discussed the
potential for building on the council's contribution through matching grants. He emphasized
that any amount approved during the meeting could serve as a foundation to secure additional
funding with potentially doubling or tripling the total. Mr. Stucky agreed with President Stoner,
and added his opinion that one of the most overlooked issues is the proper use of opioid
settlement funds, emphasizing the importance of ensuring these dollars directly benefit the
community. He highlighted that while his organization now serves over 17 counties, the current
discussion and potential funding would focus specifically on Jeffersonville. President Stoner
explained that, based on his research, the goal is not to simply enable their way out of the issue
but to recognize that it is multifaceted. He added that providing support through this funding
would be a meaningful step forward, though not the final solution. Mr. Stucky explained, as he
had mentioned before, that their organization does not provide clinical or medical services but
4 acts as a broker of resources, connecting individuals to the appropriate service providers. He
emphasized the value of the nonclinical case manager, noting that this role is filled by someone
with lived experience who has been trained and certified to guide others.This personal
experience, he added, provides insights and support that cannot be taught in a classroom.
President Stoner asked Mr. Stucky if he would be willing to return in a year to provide an
update, specifically detailing how the funds have been used in Jeffersonville or, at a minimum,
presenting the data that reflects their impact. Mr. Stucky replied that he would be willing to
come back and he could even come back every month if the council wanted him to.
Councilperson Reed acknowledged that Councilperson White's district is disproportionately
affected at times by some of these programs, taking on areas that other residents may not
prefer to live near. She expressed interest in hearing Councilperson White's perspective on the
program's value and whether it is benefiting his district. Councilperson White explained that,
professionally, he has seen the program benefit many of his clients. He noted his involvement
with treatment courts, specifically the Floyd County Veterans Court, which coordinates with
Scott and Clark counties. Councilperson White also mentioned that the program's office is
located just a few blocks from his home, highlighting its presence in his district. He emphasized
that the program provides clear value to the community, pointing to Judge Jacobs' involvement
as a testament to their impact. Councilperson White underscored the importance of their work
with individuals in the jail and acknowledged that the program effectively addresses the issues
being discussed. He concluded by saying he is more comfortable supporting the program at its
current funding level, contributing to their activities rather than providing a larger sum, he
concluded that if he left anything out, Councilperson Semones may be able to weigh in, seeing
as she deals with some of the same things as him. Councilperson Semones shared that her
district is more residential and located further out, but she expressed being impressed when
Thrive began participating in the problem-solving court for families. She noted that prior efforts
to coordinate with service providers had been inconsistent, whereas Thrive took clear
ownership, with caseworkers actively asserting their presence and support. Councilperson
Semones acknowledged that the figures presented reflect the substantial work the organization
is doing on the ground, and she trusts their accuracy based on her observations. However, she
expressed some hesitation regarding the size of the funding request, particularly concerning the
use of the funds to cover employee salaries, noting that such support might not be sustainable
in future years. Councilperson Semones concluded that while she wants to provide support to
Thrive, she has reservations about committing to funding positions. Councilperson White
echoed Councilperson Semones' concern regarding funding employee positions. He added that
he shares that hesitation and expressed support for a smaller contribution of$5,000, noting that
this amount would still significantly assist Thrive in carrying out much of their work.
Councilperson Reed suggested that$5,000 would be an appropriate contribution for now,
emphasizing that it's a starting point. She expressed interest in continuing the conversation in
the future, adding that there is potential for growth and that additional data from Thrive could
help guide further support. Mr. Stucky clarified that Thrive's primary challenge lies in upfront
capital rather than sustaining staff. With payroll already around $65,000—$70,000 every two
weeks, the organization does not have the capital add another paycheck. However, he explained
that within 90 days to six months, a new employee could be sustainable. He offered to provide
data demonstrating that a $30,000 investment could support a sustainable position within a
year and suggested the council could table the decision if they wanted to. Councilperson White
asked if a $5,000 donation could benefit the organization. Mr. Stucky emphasized that any
contribution, no matter the amount, would be helpful to the organization, noting that as a
nonprofit, even a single dollar provides support.
President Stoner commented that, based on his research, case management is an area where
more support is needed. While he acknowledged the importance of providing supplies, the
community kitchens and making sure they are taking care of people's basic necessities especially
during the winter months. He emphasized a preference for funding programs that move people
into permanent supportive housing or mental health treatment facilities—services that can
fundamentally change a person's life. He noted that city, state, and federal governments all
have a role to play, but there is a local opportunity to improve case management. Regarding
funding, he suggested moving forward with $30,000 from the $42,000 leftover, earmarked for
homelessness, and said he is willing to wait for Thrive to come back with more numbers that
some council members were asking for clarification on, but his support was behind the $30,000
request. He also encouraged having the organization return in a year to report specifically on
how Jeffersonville benefited from the funds. Mr. Stucky explained that while their tracking is
primarily at the county level, they could accommodate city-specific data if requested. He noted
that they already collect 87 points of demographic information for every individual they serve,
so expanding the data to include city-level details would not be an issue. President Stoner
clarified, and also asked Mr. Stucky for his clarification if needed, that, while there had been
initial discussion about funding a full position, the council was not moving forward with that.
Instead, the plan was to supplement Thrive's case management efforts so that can become
sustainable down the road. He noted that the funds would support their work in Clark County
and could be applied to Jeffersonville-specific data. Mr. Stucky confirmed what President Stoner
had said to be correct.
Councilperson White also wanted to clarify that the $42,000 from the current fund would return
to the General Fund and that next year's budget already includes$50,000, noting that these
amounts do not combine to create $92,000. He also asked whether the organization coordinates
with the Homeless Coalition. Mr. Stucky confirmed that his organization actively collaborates
with the Homeless Coalition, Exit Zero, and Catalyst. He noted that a coach visits the Catalyst
house weekly, while other team members works closely with Exit Zero and the Homeless
Coalition, and staff also volunteer at the White Flag shelter during the Christmas season,
highlighting their deep community involvement. Councilperson White asked, that in their
collaboration with the other organizations, do they help find and house people. Mr. Stucky
confirmed that his organization does assist with housing and agreed with President Stoner's
earlier point that the primary funding challenge is case management. He explained that the
difficulty is not in initially connecting with individuals but in providing ongoing support. For
example, when working with programs like Covering Kids and Families or the Homeless Coalition
on insurance matters, staff must ensure unhoused individuals receive their mail and that it gets
properly processed through their AR representatives. Mr. Stucky emphasized that these follow-
up tasks are essential components of non-clinical case management, which is often understaffed
despite high community demand. President Stoner noted that $50,000 would not solve the
problem. He referenced discussions from 2024, when the council invited the entire community
out to talk about these issues. He explained that the dollars being discussed would infuse
current programs, especially as agencies face pressure from federal and state changes.
President Stoner acknowledged that a broader, comprehensive perspective could be discussed,
and he has led and remains open to those conversations. He also added that it would be a step
in the right direction and that it appears it will help support the organization's current efforts
with case management.
Council Vice President Burns expressed that his comment was not a critique of the organization.
He commented that he was somewhat familiar with their work, including through social media,
and acknowledged the good work being done. However, he added that if he had known the
council would approve an additional $30,000, he would have given more money more to the
Center for Lay Ministries, as both organizations were doing good work. Vice President Burns
questioned the reasoning for giving a larger amount to one organization while providing less to
another. Councilperson Semones suggested alternative approaches for distributing funds,
proposing either to give $10,000 to each of the organizations discussed in the meeting or to
involve an additional ten organizations in the funding conversation. Councilperson Reed added
that there seemed to be several questions among the council regarding a larger donation, and
she emphasized that everyone was supportive of the organization. She suggested that the
council could move forward with the $5,000 donation, since it sounded like there was clear
support for that amount. Councilperson Reed also added that the council could then take
additional time to further discuss the possibility of providing additional funds, and asked
whether that approach would be acceptable. Councilperson White added that the council might
even consider bringing more organizations together so they could better understand and ensure
the city is making the right investment for what is needed. He also noted that any talk about
funding a position would move beyond what the council typically does. Which President Stoner
clarified that the discussion was not about funding a position. Councilperson White went on to
say that they might even be drifting into talking about a case manager position, which made him
hesitant. Still, he emphasized that providing$5,000 felt appropriate. In his view, that amount
would support the organization, help sustain the good work they're already doing, and
potentially allow them to assist a few more people. He ended by saying that's where he stood
on the matter to which Councilperson Semones echoed her support with Councilperson White.
President Stoner continued the conversation, adding that there were a few people that the
council hadn't heard from yet. Councilperson Webb added that he liked Councilperson
Semones' idea. He commented that he thought they should give the $5,000 and then discuss
the matter among themselves. He added that they could decide later whether they wanted to
give both organizations more or bring another group into the discussion.
Mr. Stucky asked the council for one consideration during their upcoming conversations. He
noted that what he was about to say didn't sound like something a nonprofit CEO should say. He
suggested that the council have the conversations among themselves and see where things
landed. He explained that,from his perspective, they would like to see the majority of the
money go to maybe one organization, because he believed they would make a bigger move with
a larger amount instead of smaller donations. He continued, that if they were going to "move a
house," they would move more with larger support than with "little tiny pebbles", and that
$30,000 or$15,000 would do a lot. He emphasized he wasn't saying they had to pick his
organization, but for the nonprofits that were around, such an amount would do a lot of
wonders for what was going on in the City of Jeffersonville. He added that even if it took him out
of the running, he would urge them to consider making a one-time bigger donation to an
organization they might have a better track record with, and then see what they could
accomplish in a year. Mr. Stucky concluded with that was simply his input as someone who had
been running a nonprofit for almost ten years, because the move he could make with $5,000
was nowhere near the move he could make with $30,000, especially when trying to support
people in the community.
4
President Stoner agreed with the idea of waiting and having more time for discussions. He noted
that this was only the second time that year the council had talked about the Homelessness
Fund. He pointed out that he had raised this issue last year and had spent time this year
preparing for it, knowing the $50,000 needed to be allocated before the end of the year. He
commented that he was happy to champion that effort and encouraged other council members
to bring forward their own ideas for how to champion those dollars. Addressing Vice President
Burns' earlier concern, he did not view the funding approach as adversarial in the manner of one
group getting$30,000 while another got $5,000. The real question was how to spread the
$50,000 in the best possible way, especially since it was only a small amount compared to the
size of the homelessness challenge the city faced.The focus was on how to do the most good.
President Stoner continued with listing local organizations such as: Center for Lay Ministries,
Thrive, and White Flag Shelter— which he added was especially critical at that time of year—and
Exit Zero, which supported street outreach. He also mentioned that the council had provided
$50,000 to Catalyst Rescue Mission the previous year, and that other organizations and
municipalities had continued supporting Catalyst as well. President Stoner concluded with that
rather than making a quick decision that evening, he preferred to wait and was comfortable
with tabling the conversation and having additional discussions with the council.
Councilperson White expressed that he was comfortable moving forward and believed there
was support for providing$5,000. He noted that he appreciated the way the council had been
directing funds, pointing out that money given to the YMCA supported hundreds of families by
helping them be healthier, more active, and supported with before-and after-school care for
children. He added that the funding to the NAACP helped people attend college and improve
their lives, and that funding to Southern Indiana Works helped residents learn the discipline
needed to enter the workforce. He emphasized that the work these organizations do benefits
the people they interact with on a daily basis. Councilperson White added that providing $5,000
in this case would be a good step toward supporting the organization and contributing to their
efforts to make the community a better place. Councilperson White moved to award Thrive
$5,000 from the Homeless Fund, to which Councilperson Semones asked Councilperson White
to confirm if he was making a motion. Councilperson White confirmed he was making a motion,
and Councilperson Semones seconded the motion.
President Stoner then continued the discussion and asked the council to consider that he went
out and attempted to create a plan around these dollars, including pre-planning, and having
conversations in the community regarding the funds. He noted he was aware there was
discussion about the need to take another look at it and requested that the item be tabled so
they could regroup and figure out how to best spend the dollars, emphasizing that effort had
already been put into this. He pointed out that they wanted to ensure the funds were utilized in
the best way possible and referenced Mr. Stucky's point that more could likely be accomplished
with larger portions rather than just $5,000. He stressed that more dialogue was needed and
asked that the matter be given additional time, suggesting they discuss it at the December 1st
meeting. Councilperson Reed added clarification, stating that providing $5,000 to the
organization tonight would not conclude the conversation. She explained that the council could
approve the amount now and continue discussions afterward. Councilperson Reed expressed
interest in reviewing the organization's 990 forms and the number of people housed,
emphasizing the importance of considering the work already completed. She acknowledged the
value of understanding the existing system of care but noted that the decision tonight could be
a starting point, with further conversation to continue at the December meeting if the council
was comfortable it. Councilperson Semones added that the point of order was that a motion
was made and had been seconded. President Stoner interjected that a motion does not
withhold further discussions and the council had done this before.
President Stoner acknowledged that Mr. Stucky had said that any amount would be helpful but
asked if he would be comfortable delaying the $5,000 award and instead continuing the
conversation at the first meeting in December. Mr. Stucky responded that he felt caught
"between a rock and a hard place," acknowledging the difficulty of the decision. He emphasized
that leading a nonprofit, any donation would help his organization, and he was being honest.
Councilperson White acknowledged that it was a horrible position to be put in and President
Stoner agreed and offered his apologies to Mr. Stucky. Councilperson Reed reaffirmed that this
was not the end of the conversation, it was just the beginning, which was a good thing.
Councilperson White added that the Homeless Coalition was established before his time on the
council, following a study he believed was carried out by IUS. He emphasized the importance of
bringing all relevant entities to the table and suggested that once this collaboration is in place, it
would help identify where the greatest needs exist. Councilperson Webb asked for confirmation
of what was in the Homeless Fund account, which was confirmed to now be $33,000 after the
$5,000 donation to Center for Lay Ministries earlier in the meeting and the current conversation
of giving Thrive $5,000. Councilperson Webb then asked for confirmation that there was a
motion on the floor for$5,000 to Thrive, which was confirmed to be correct.There was no
further discussion from the council.
Councilperson White made a motion to award Thrive $5,000 out of the Homeless Fund,
seconded by Councilperson Semones; motion passed, 6-1, Council President Stoner voted
against
5. Heather Metcalf 2025-OR-54 Ordinance of Additional Appropriation
President Stoner introduced the agenda item 2025-OR-54; Ordinance for an additional
appropriation, noting that Chief McVoy would address the item regarding police buybacks. He
reminded the council that the funding for this appropriation would come from the now-closed
River Ridge Police Non-reverting Fund.
Chief McVoy addressed the council regarding the ordinance for an additional appropriation. He
explained that the dormant River Ridge Police funds were being appropriated specifically to the
police buyback line to help fill the current gap of$400,000. He emphasized that the department
had already undertaken significant restructuring. Chief McVoy acknowledged that while the
council might have expected a request closer to $1.5 million, he has not done that. Chief McVoy
continued with explain the only remaining issue the department faced for the end of the year
were the police buybacks and that the additional appropriation, he reminded the council the
total amount was$209,474.54, would help balance that out. There were no questions from the
council.
Council President Stoner made a motion to approve the Ordinance, 2025-OR-54 on the 1st and
2nd reading, seconded by Council Vice President Burns; motion passed, 7-0.
6. Heather Metcalf 2025-OR-55 Ordinance Transferring Certain Funds Within the Same
Department
President Stoner introduced Ordinance 2025-OR-55, which involved transferring funds within
the same department.The first transfer was for the Building Authority, transferring funds from
travel and mileage to cover maintenance of vehicles, and the purchase of tires for an inspector's
truck, as well as 2026 calendars and copy paper.The second transfer comes from the law
department, totaling$130, which President Stoner commented that he had sent an email to the
council earlier that day, detailing what that was He then opened the floor for any discussion,
which there was none.
Councilperson Reed made a motion to approve the Ordinance, 2025-OR-55 on the 1st and 2nd
reading, seconded by Council Vice President Burns; motion passed, 7-0.
Committee Reports/Comment: None
ATTORNEY COMMENTS:
Larry Wilder— No comment
Les Merkley—Not present
DEPARTMENT HEADS: None
COUNCIL COMMENTS:
• Councilperson White—"Last year we passed a set of rules that any council person could put
something on the agenda as it is presented. I just want to make sure that in the future,
regardless of what that is, it is presented on the agenda as it has been sent to the clerk. If there
was any interference with that, remind everyone that voted to pass those rules, they are in
effect, regardless if somebody is opposed to it or not. There is a right generated from those
rules to put whatever we want on the agenda, I expect that to be upheld. It is unfortunate that,
secondly, I invited the mayor here on two separate occasions, during two different meetings, I
asked for information about this grant, and no information was given. The night when it is on
the agenda, nobody from the administration even showed up to talk about it, specifically the
finance director or the city attorney or the mayor who was specifically invited. I sent the Zoom
information too. I have done meetings in Breckenridge, Colorado, it does not matter where we
are anymore, we can still attend meetings. It is unfortunate that he can quickly go and appear
on a television channel and not inform the very council that sits in this room about what this
means. I am very disappointed that he chose not to attend and we had to find our information
from other sources. Other than that, I wish everyone a happy Thanksgiving. We did good work
tonight donating to Thrive and also setting up the fire department to have laterals. I know the
police have been very successful with that. Hopefully it will give us what we need with the fire
department.That is all I have, thank you."
• Council Vice President Burns—No comment
• Councilperson Semones—No comment
• Councilperson Anderson—No comment
• Councilperson Reed—"I would like to make sure everybody is invited to the Hunter Station Toy
Drive, the 21st through the 30th of this month. Last year they really helped Franklin Square
Elementary School. I know they are in Sellersburg, but they are helping a lot of our local kids
with these. If you can, drop by a bike or a toy;just donate anything, it helps. If you cannot get it
out there, I will take it. I feel like that is a great organization, it is bipartisan and they are just
trying to do some good in our community. If you have a chance, please get out there, get some
pizza, and donate some toys. It is also very sad to hear that Parkview lost their basketball game
tonight, so I am going to be in mourning for at least the next week."
• Councilperson Webb— No comment
• Councilperson Hawkins—Absent
• Councilperson Snelling—Absent
• Council President Stoner—"So on the Thrive dollars, I look forward to regrouping and speaking
with my colleagues, and determining what we can do to move forward. I think it was
disappointing that we were not able to make that happen tonight, but I understand people have
additional questions, and I look forward to having those conversations. Linsey, can you pull up
the screenshot of the WLKY article and put it back on the screen if you can?So nowhere does
this state that the city of Jeffersonville is specifically receiving dollars from this grant,just so that
everybody knows on the record that's watching. Obviously these grant dollars were coming
from the Lilly Endowment.They will be completely administered and supervised by the IEDC. It
will go directly to ACBL, as well as the developers assigned to that project. So none of these
dollars are hitting city coffers, nor will they be distributed in any way by the City of
Jeffersonville. I believe some of the maneuvering that occurred was unwarranted, and I hope we
can move forward in a more suitable way."
Councilperson White: "So what that does say...are you done with your comments?"
Council President Stoner: "Well I'm in council comments and it's my time to speak."
Councilperson White: "So that's why I asked."
Council President Stone: "We're doing adjournment, we're done with the council meeting."
Councilperson White: "Before we adjourn, I would like to say that post was misleading and I was
getting questions. That's why I brought it up, and everything that we've explained is not
concluding with that. It makes it seem like the city of Jeff was getting a grant, so that's why I
wanted clarification."
Councilperson Webb: "Can I make a comment?"
Council President Stoner: "Yeah, absolutely."
Councilperson Webb: "That's not Jeff. I respect everybody's opinion, and I respect you bringing
it up, Councilman White. But that's not even city property.That's ACL, and we didn't get the
money or anything. I think a lot of the public thinks we have a big decision on what's going
there, but it's not our property."
Councilperson Semones: "I agree with you, Councilperson Webb. I think unfortunately this body,
as well as the administration, and as well as our private partners, are gonna have to reinforce
that over and over and over. Because we're gonna say it once, and a few people are gonna hear
that.That is going to continue to be the impression, and I think we're going to have to continue
to reinforce that and provide clarity around that issue. Because the public does have, I think, a
misperception of lots of things surrounding that issue, and I think there's a lot of public interest
in it, you know, for obvious reasons. So I think the more transparency and clarity we can
provide, the more information we can provide as things move forward, and continually reinforce
the facts versus the perception, I think that's gonna have to be part of our job."
Councilperson Webb: "I believe it might be best to maybe invite someone from ACL."
President Stoner: "That's already been done."
Councilperson Webb: "Great, okay."
President Stoner: "We're having those conversations right now and they want to come in
Ne update and just like Mrs. Semones said, we just need to make sure this is done on a factual basis
and not play political games with it."
Councilperson Webb: "We can contact the news organization and thy can be here."
President Stoner: "Absolutely."
Councilperson Webb: "Get all the facts and the public's because I've had a lot of questions."
Councilperson White: "Yeah, me too."
Councilperson Webb: "I said that's not our property."
President Stoner: "And there are portions of this project where redevelopment will play a role,
where the administration will play a role. It just so happens that this specific grant has nothing
to do with the city of Jeffersonville and it is not going to be distributed by the city of
Jeffersonville, therefore the mayor would not be the relevant person to speak about it."
Councilperson Webb: "I agree, thank you."
President Stoner: "Is there a motion?"
Councilperson White: "And remember when you click that link, it's the mayor in a news article in
an interview by the newscast. So that's why I brought that up. And hopefully he could further
inform."
Councilperson Webb: "He was just trying to make the public aware of what was going on. We
got the grant."
Councilperson White: "Like that, at the end of the day, it confused a lot of my constituents and
the people I talked to, and then I didn't have answers for them. And let's not forget that I asked
for that information twice before I had to put it up in the agenda. Maybe had it been given when
asked, then we wouldn't even be here. So absolutely no political games being played. There's a
request for information, two different meetings, where it's not provided. So it's a shame that we
have to put something on the agenda and actually invite the mayor here for then people to
wake up and want to start finding out what's going on and then finding out what the
information is and then trying to inform people behind the scenes in the emails. There's no
political maneuvering going on. That just seems to be the only way you can get information
nowadays. Now, if there was some maneuvering, I believe I said that was warranted, that
interfered with the rules, I'd like to know what that is because then that's a whole other issue
with respect to if someone prevented what I requested to be on the agenda, to be put on the
agenda. If that's the case, then that's something that needs to be another topic."
Councilperson Webb: "I'll make it public and hopefully the news organizations will be watching
this, but that is not city property."
Councilperson White: "Right, that's American Commercial Barge Line."
Councilperson Reed: "Well, I would say tonight what we learned is if it's confusing to us, no
wonder it's confusing to our constituents. And so I think all of us value transparency, all of us
value openness. So I think us all moving forward together in openness and transparency is a
great idea."
President Stoner: "Yes, and it's very important too that we invite the correct people that were
instrumental in this grant. So for each component of this project, we want to make sure that
we're inviting the correct individuals in to answer questions on that, and in this case three of the
individuals that we could invite: John Launius from One Southern Indiana, Paul Wheatley from
the Wheatley Group, and representatives from either River Hills or American Commercial Barge
Lines."
Councilperson White: "I concur with that."
ADJOURNMENT:
Council President Stoner made the motion to ADJOURN the meeting at 07:24 p.m.
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