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Home My WebLink AboutSeptember 2, 2025 Council Minutes COMMON COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF JEFFERSONVILLE, INDIANA September 2, 2025 Regular Meeting Minutes The Common Council of the City of Jeffersonville, Indiana met for the Regular Meeting on September 2, 2025. Council President Stoner along with City Clerk Gill called the meeting to order at 6:00 p.m.The meeting was open to the public in person as well as live streamed via the City Website using Zoom. INVOCATION: Led by Mr. Clay Milton PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE: ROLL CALL: The roll call was conducted by City Clerk Lisa Gill and present in Council Chambers were Council Vice President Burns, Councilperson Semones, Councilperson Anderson, Council President Stoner, Councilperson Reed, Councilperson Webb, Councilperson Hawkins, Councilperson Snelling, and Councilperson White was late, arriving at 06:03 PM. Let the record reflect that 9 Council Members were present in Council Chambers. Daniel Walters, Council Youth Advisor was present for the proceedings. APPROVAL OF MINUTES: Council Vice President Burns made a motion to approve the Minutes for Regular Proceedings on 8/18/2025, seconded by Councilperson Reed; motion passed, 8-0; Councilperson White was not present at the time of the vote. APPROVAL OF AGENDA: Councilperson Hawkins made a motion to amend the agenda, adding speaker Sue Wright from the Jeffersonville, Clark County NAACP, seconded by Council Vice President Burns; motion passed, 9-0. Councilperson Semones made a motion to approve the agenda as amended, seconded by Council Vice President Burns; motion passed 9-0. CLAIMS TO APPROVE: Civil City$ 1,973,819.33 Council Vice President Burns made a motion to approve the Civil City Claims, seconded by Councilperson Snelling; motion passed, 9-0. Parks$ 104,089.17 Councilperson Reed made a motion to approve the Parks Claims, seconded by Councilperson Semones; motion passed, 9-0. REPORT OF THE CLERK: None REPORT OF THE YOUTH ADVISOR: Youth Advisor Daniel Walters reported that since the last meeting, he has been working on a form that will be sent to the Jacksonville youth, and the students at Jeff. He noted that next week he will meet with the full-term advisors and view the results from the form to see how he can build off of that. UNFINISHED BUSINESS None NEW BUSINESS: PUBLIC COMMENTS: None 1. Donna Reed Dr.Allison Miller Adult Literacy Day Proclamation Councilperson Reed began by recognizing Dr. Allison Miller as a wonderful resident of Jeffersonville who has been promoting literacy from adults down to children and emphasized the impact of literacy on the community. Mrs. Reed stated that Dr. Miller brought forward a proclamation supported by the mayor declaring September 14th through 20th as "Adult Education and Family Literacy Week" in Jeffersonville (see attachment). Mrs. Reed noted that Dr. Miller would share more about the significance of this recognition, followed by remarks from David Seckman, director of the local library. Dr. Allison Miller addressed the Council: See attachment for the full speech. David Seckman addressed the Council: "Hi everybody. I'm David Seckman, library director of the Jeffersonville Township Public Library. I just want to thank Donna Reed for inviting me this evening and the city council as well. I think it's amazing the proclamation that is put forth and the work that Dr. Miller is doing, it's fantastic. I think it's going to achieve some great results in our Kentuckiana area. I just to give you a little bit of background, kind of where the library comes from when it comes to literacy, we talk about lifelong learning. If you think about, if a child is not reached the grade level by third grade, they're three times more likely to find themselves incarcerated and it continues on. But yet, if a child spends 45 minutes reading every day, there's a very likely chance they'll be in the 90th percentile in the test scores. So, I mean, it's really powerful when we think of literacy, and it carries on throughout a lifetime. You know, Dr. Miller talked about upskilling your job, if you want to get a better job, if you have great literacy, it goes a long way towards constant lifelong learning and improving. It also means being a good citizen, being able to understand what's going on in the world. Being able to decipher good information from bad information. Even being a good consumer, if we are a good consumer, if we can decipher what's going on with medical information, financial literacy, I mean, it just goes on and on. Everything really stems from that early literacy going on throughout to adulthood. Whenever you can combine family time with literacy, I think that it's awesome. I know you've all been great supporters of literacy. A lot of you've read to kids at the library, you know, so I think anytime we can start out and promote literacy and keep it going forward throughout people's lifespan, I think our community is going to be in a better place. So I do appreciate you all, and I appreciate Dr. Miller for your efforts, thank you." Council President Stoner addressed Library Director David Seckman: "Director Seckman, we've got a big announcement coming up at the library, don't we?" Director Seckman responded: "Yes, sir. We're very excited. Collaboration with the city council, particularly Mr. Stoner, we talked about collaborating and creating an entrepreneurship. So we're looking at economic development. It's collaboration between City Council had some economic development funds, so they're able to fund new computer equipment, new software equipment for our learning lab. So it's really created a snowball effect, where we've been able to partner with other agencies to create a cohort, our first cohort to be able to bring in people working to start a business. So it is going to mentor them, and it should create some real economic development for the area. So it's really exciting and hopefully that's the first of many of those opportunities. So I thank the council for that. It's going to be really awesome coming soon." Council President Stoner concluded the conversation by thanking Mr. Seckman, and Dr. Miller, along with Councilperson Reed for helping to spearhead this. 2. Sue Wright President of the Jeffersonville, Clark County NAACP, discussing the Freedom Fund Banquet. Sue Wright addressed the Council: "I want to thank the members of the City Council for allowing me to represent the Jeffersonville Clark County branch this evening. My name is Cornelia Sue Wright, and I'm the new elected president of the branch. One of the things that I'd like to talk about first is simply to let you know that there is a new administration and the NAACP Jeffersonville Clark County branch is alive and well. I want to acknowledge former Chief of Police, Kenny Kavanaugh, because he acknowledged me at the last meeting, and I want to thank him for a job well done, and also that he had the foresight to partner with us, to keep our community safe and to respect each other. He also set up a meeting on September 4th, for us to actually be at the police station and host the meeting with the NAACP. I just want to thank him and all of his other officers for allowing us to do that, and I invite everyone in the community to come to this meeting. Again, I want to say how important it is for us to have this representation and also to be able to work with our police department, because I can tell you that I have been stopped, and because simply I had my denim hat cocked to one side, I had my denim jacket on, I had my shades on, and my car was nice and shiny, and I was stopped. I was never told why I was stopped and I was never given a ticket. But those are the kinds of things that we want to work with the police department about, because I came to the assumption I was driving while black period. So those are the kinds of things that we want to let our community know what's going on with us, and also to let the city council know what's going on with us. One of the things that we value in our NAACP is diversity, equity, and inclusion. I know that puts a fear into a lot of people's psyche, but that fear is there to divide us, and we refuse to be divided. So I'd like to educate you and let you know that this is what we're going to be doing. We're going to be out in the community and talking to everybody in the community and we hope that you understand that those three words should never, ever put fear into you. When we look at this room, everyone in this room is diverse somehow, somehow we're all diverse. So again, we do not ever want to shy away from that, and we are not going to in the NAACP. My second topic is just our Freedom Fund gathering, which will be on October 18th, probably all of you know that there is a Freedom Fund event every year, and we're calling it a gathering this year because we want you to have fun, and we want you to come and talk to each other and be a part of our gathering. The sponsor letter that we have basically just simply says that our gatherings purpose is to bring the importance of inclusion for social and economic equity for our communities. The gathering gives our community a way to talk to each other and not so that it's so formal. Again, it's going to be like an indoor picnic, so we want you to be there, so we're inviting everyone to be there. Our guest speaker and the entertainer of this year will be Grammy Award winner Teddy Abrams. He has agreed to be there for us, and we hope that you will come and we understand the budget cuts for the city and the city council, and we understand what you have done for our youth council also, and we thank you very much for that. But again, we are two separate entities,just like your parks and recreation and city are two separate entities. So what we are all about this year and upcoming will be about voter education and not just voter registration. If you believe in what the NAACP stands for,your presence and sponsorship will be noted at our gathering on October 18th, and again, we have our sponsorship letter. We hope you'll be there to support us and be a sponsor. And on behalf of the Jeffersonville Clark County NAACP branch, we thank you for this opportunity to let you know what we're all about, and we will be out there in the community talking to you about diversity, equity, and inclusion. Thank you." 3. Chad Reischl (PUBLIC HEARING) 2025-OR-36 Ordinance of Rezoning Request for Property Located at 3311 Holmans Lane from NS(Institutional Uses)to Proposed M2 (Multi-Family Residential-Medium Scale) Chad Reischl the city's planning and zoning director, representing Little Flock Missionary Baptist Church, addressed the council and presented a rezoning request for a 6.5-acre parcel located at 3311 Holman's Lane. Mr. Reischl explained that the Church's needs have changed, and they are seeking to relocate to a new site within Jeffersonville. To accomplish this, they intend to sell the existing property and purchase a smaller parcel that will be easier to maintain. The request is to rezone the property from NS (Institutional Use)—a designation commonly applied to churches— to M2 (Multifamily Residential). Mr. Reischl noted this is a speculative rezoning, as there is no specific buyer at this time. However, the property is considered well-suited for multifamily residential development given its location within a developing residential corridor that includes a variety of residential uses. The planning and zoning staff concluded that the proposed rezoning is compatible with surrounding land uses and consistent with the city's regiment there. The request was submitted to the Council with a favorable recommendation from the Plan Commission. Mr. Reischl concluded by asking if there were any questions for him or the applicants. Council president Stoner began by stating- "We have two members of the plan commission, how was the response to this?" Councilperson Webb responded- "It was a favorable recommendation. Only thing I worry about is if we approve down the road, this could cause us some apartments, congestion might be a problem, but the subdivision, I don't see a problem, but it did come with a favorable recommendation, from planning and zoning." Councilperson Reed also commented- "When I look at it, I think the NS zoning, it's so niche and it creates a lot of issues with some of our NS-zoned properties. I'd much rather something be residential, multi-family, or otherwise, but it's just very niche and I agree it's hard to sell." Councilperson Semones asked Mr. Reischl if they had received any calls or letters at the planning commission stage in opposition, to which he responded that they had not received any. Council President Stoner- "Mr. Reischl, can you speak to some of the upgrades that we've done on Holman's Lane in the past several years?" Mr. Reischl- "So I'm not the city engineer necessarily, but we have widened Holman's Lane, added bicycle lanes, etcetera. Made sure that it's walkable with sidewalks, so that road can handle a good amount of traffic or more traffic than it used to be able to hold. So I think that's some of the reason you're starting to see a little bit more development along that road. So it kind of follows the transportation investment. Some is often followed by real-estate investment." Councilperson Reed- "Do you think that when the construction on the road out by the soccer field is completed, that it'll lessen some of that traffic that's currently on Holmans?" Mr. Reischl- "Oh, are you talking about Charlestown Pike? I think that's probably fair to say." Council President Stoner- "Yeah, Andy Crouch might be a good person, obviously, for us to ask about that. But I know he was looking at some upgrade or ways to mitigate some traffic issues on Holman's Lane and 10th Street and Allison Lane." Mr. Reischl- "I will say that in terms of this property, there will be some development limitations because the front, a large portion of the front of this property has the highline wires going over that. So there's like a 100-foot easement that runs across a portion of this site. So there will be some limited development potential when it comes down to it." Jason Copperwaite with Paul Primavera &Associates, stepped to the podium to help address questions from the council- "I can maybe add a little bit to that. It's about a third of the property that's not developable because of that LG&E power line easement. So while the total property is six and a half acres, you're probably looking more like four, four and a half acres of developable property. In addition to that, your zoning code has restrictions on the M2 zone in terms of number of units, aesthetics, and amenities. So you already have a lot of protections in place for whatever that future buyer, if there is, when there is a future buyer, what they can put there." Council President Stoner- "And then that future buyer also would have to go through our process. As far as Chad, we've talked about before about the committee from police, fire, and street sanitation. We'll give their input on any future development, make sure that police can access it, fire can access it, sanitation can get back there, so on and so forth." Mr. Reischl- "And of course, someone could buy the property and decide to rezone it to single family if they wanted to. So it's still very much up in the air." Council President Stoner- "And I think it's also of note that we've had this conversation back and forth about, between multifamily and single family residential, and that Jeffersonville actually does have a very healthy balance of single family and multifamily residential, and that any sort of,you know, there's a lot of exaggeration out there. We have so many apartment complexes going in, but actually we have a very healthy balance compared to other comparable cities." Mr. Reischl- "Yes. It's about a 30, 30% multifamily and 70% single family balance here in the City of Jeffersonville." Council President Stoner concluded by thanking both Mr. Reischl and Mr. Copperwaite and opened the floor for the public hearing for anyone who wanted to speak for or against the ordinance. There were no public comments so Council President Stoner closed the public hearing and asked if there were any additional comments or questions from the council, which there were none. Councilperson Snelling made a motion to approve the Ordinance 2025-OR-36, seconded by Councilperson White; motion passed, 8-0-1; Councilperson Webb abstained. 4. Chad Reischl (PUBLIC HEARING) 2025-OR-37 Ordinance of Rezoning Request for Property Located at 1820 Charlestown Pike (AREA 1)from PR (Parks& Recreational)to Proposed R1 (Single Family Residential-Large Lot) Council President Stoner asked Mr. Larry Wilder, the City Council's attorney to introduce the next ordinance on the agenda. Larry Wilder- "So, oddly enough, there's a belief that this one will be as smooth and quick as that number. So it looks like it's gonna get ugly, it is not. That is going forward for the public hearing on 37, 38, 39, 40, vast majority here, interest in this, the council is going to utilize their rules for the public comment, which limits each individual's comment to four minutes. Now, I've been told that it's probably safe to believe that Mr. Kraft has some opportunity. He wants to speak to the council. And Mr. Kraft, you possibly have your appraiser as well, not just you?" Attorney John Kraft, representing "Hoosier Fairway Investments", acknowledge Mr. Wilder stating it would be him and Mr. Copperwaite. Larry Wilder- "Right, so then would be our understanding, you believe, Mr. Grant, you'll have four minutes. You'll have four minutes. And then Mr. Applegate, I believe you have some comments on make, is that correct?" Mr. Applegate- "Yes, Sir" Larry Wilder- "And you have some individuals that are prepared to speak. And if they could all limit themselves to that four minutes and try not to be repetitious, and then when it's all said and done, have five minutes to discuss." Attorney John Kraft- "One question Mr. Wilder" Larry Wilder- "Yes" Attorney John Kraft- "There, there are four different dockets, are we..." Larry Wilder- "I was gonna ask that question, so Mr. Kraft, since you are the moving party, do you want to address all four of them together, or do you want to address separate?" Attorney John Kraft- "I think they need to be voted separately." Larry Wilder- "They can vote separately, do you wanna address the subject matter all in one?" Attorney John Kraft- "I'll give that attempt, but I'm not sure that four minutes is sufficient to address four dockets." Larry Wilder- "You're asking for additional time?" Attorney John Kraft- "That would be correct" Councilperson White- "Applicant has more than four minutes, don't they?" Larry Wilder- "They do, so let's be fair." Attorney John Kraft- "I mean, if so, Mr. Applegate is getting time plus his folks getting time, then I should be granted that same opportunity." Larry Wilder- "Judge Carmichael agreed, Mr. Stoner, we good?To give Mr. Kraft?" Council President Stoner- "I think that, I think looking around the council that seems to be fair." Councilperson White- "It's on the agenda, there's not a timeline." Larry Wilder- "Perfect, then we'll forward.Thanks." Council President Stoner thanked everyone and introduced the first of four rezone ordinances, Chad Reischl, 2025-OR-37, ordinance of rezone requests for property located at 1820 Charlestown Pike from PR to R1. Chad Reischl stepped back to the podium. Mr. Reischl- "So yeah, as we just said, these items on your agenda are all related, and so for the sake of time, it probably makes sense to talk about them all at once.The first three requests on your docket tonight are to change portions of the Elk Run Golf Course along Augusta Drive and St. Andrews Road from PR, which is Parks and Recreation, to R1, Single Family Residential large lot. The fourth request is to change a portion of the Elk Run Golf Course along the south side of Charlestown Jeffersonville Pike from PR, Parks and Recreation, to R2, Single Family Residential medium lot. These requests were first brought to the Plan Commission in February where they were given an unfavorable recommendation due to concerns that today's smaller lot zoning standards would not guarantee consistency with the large lot subdivision of Gulf View from the sixties; concerns about devaluing local properties that will lose their current views of the golf course; and concerns about repeated flooding issues in and around the course. The applicant, Hoosier Fairway Investments LLC, pulled the case before it reached Council. In order to address some of these issues this past month, the applicant brought the project back to the Plan Commission with a set of written and recorded zoning commitments to address these issues. These commitments stipulate that the new lots will be consistent with existing lots in terms of lot size, house size, materials, and setbacks. They also commit themselves to developing a drainage plan and getting approval from the drainage board. These commitments are in your packet. Planning staff feels that the commitments addressed a number of concerns, but there still may be issues related to devaluation of adjacent homes. At the Plan Commission meeting, where there was standing room only, we heard testimony from a number of folks, again indicating that the flooding problems were one of the biggest issues for which development should not be allowed. Foremost among the testimony was referenced to a 2017 drainage study by the Lochmueller Group that urged the community to prohibit new development within the drainage basin until the downstream pinch points at Hamburg Pike and the CSX railroad are addressed, or regional detention facilities are created to reduce regular flooding in the area. Other issues brought to the floor included devaluation of property due to the loss of golf course views, loss of trees in open space, and setting a precedent for eventually rezoning the whole course for development. For these reasons, the Plan Commission once again gave all four of these proposals an unfavorable recommendation. Please let me know if you have any further questions of me." Council President Stoner opened the public hearing for 2025-OR-37. Attorney John Kraft- "Yes, please. My name is John Kraft. I'm with the law firm of Young, Lind, Endres & Kraft, 126 West Spring Street in New Albany, appearing on behalf of the applicant. Appearing with me as well is Jason Copperwaite with Primavera &Associates, who is the engineer on the project. Let me talk about, as I indicated to Mr. Wilder at the beginning of this public hearing, we're talking about four different rezoning's, the first of which would be what we call Area one. You should have in your packet a drawing that reflects each of these areas. Those areas would be area one would be proposed R1, that would be the three lots that would be developed, those would be developed in this particular instance we're talking about at Tee Box eight, if you're familiar with the golf course. Likewise with regards to this, as indicated by Mr. Reischl, part of what has been done is we have put together a zoning commitment that commits these to the lot size, the setbacks, everything that is currently in Gulf View.The other piece of it that I think is important that Mr. Reishl mentioned was what happened in 2018. Hopefully each of you got a copy of my email today that primarily gave you the information with regards to that case. I think it's important to note that that case dealt with the area immediately adjacent to Gulf View as well. In doing so, what happened was that case, ultimately the subdivision was denied. My client in that particular instance, Jeremy Reed Builder, sued the city. We prevailed. There is a 22 page decision that I forwarded to you today. That 22 page decision specifically addresses the Lochmueller report. What's most interesting is in that decision primarily deals with the real estate being the real estate that is before you in that particular instance, the real estate was before the then Plan Commission and not about real estate downstream. When that Lochmueller report came back, I think the Plan Commission was totally misinformed by the opposition. If you read that the Lochmueller report, there are two of them. Both of them specifically indicate, as you're gonna hear from Mr. Copperwaite, that both of those reports indicate that that development would in fact lessen, it would decrease the amount of runoff and would actually improve the drainage plan for the City of Jeffersonville, this will do the same. It's kind of interesting because at the Plan Commission meeting, the meeting was started on our dockets when Mr. McCutchen, president of the Plan Commission indicated we are not going to hear about drainage. Drainage is for the drainage board. 80%of that meeting was consumed with the opposition showing pictures of 50 year and 100 year flood pictures. Keeping in mind, the Lochmueller report specifically addresses the fact that the amount of runoff will be reduced, that is the case here again. So the drainage issue that they may be experiencing now, apparently nothing has been done in accordance with the Lochmueller report, it was done in 2017, two weeks apart. Nothing was done by the city to deal with that downstream runoff. So in this particular instance, when you look at the actual court case, and understand that this matter was appealed to the Court of Appeals by the city, we had written our appellate's brief opposing the actual appeal prior to that happening. Mr. Merkley on behalf of the city desired to bring the matter to a close and settle it. The city purchased that real estate for significantly more than what my client had paid for it. In order to deal with that issue. There is now a park, this particular instance, we don't have a park. We have a privately owned golf course that many of you may be aware. This is the only parcel in the city of New Albany. City of Jeffersonville that specifically is a PR zoning district. There is no other privately owned property with the exception of Parron Park. And that is owned by a 501(c) (3). That is the only other piece of property in the city of Jeffersonville that is PR. Every other PR in the city of Jeffersonville is owned by the municipality. They are parks at the time of the plan commission meeting, that's much of what we heard. If we did not hear about drainage, we heard about how much it is a service to the community to have that golf course in the city of Jeffersonville. There is a letter also that I submitted to you today with my email. That letter comes from Hoosier Fairway Investments, LLC.That letter was written by one of the members, the president of the LLC. That primarily addresses many of the misinformation that was provided to the plan commission. Mr. Kurt Kirchgessner wishes he could be here, but due to a previous family commitment that he had to attend, and again, feeling that the meeting was going to be on a Monday, but Monday was a federal holiday, he wasn't able to be here. When you look at the actual areas that are being done there, there was significant comment initially about moving the tee boxes and what would happen, golf balls in backyards issues pertaining to that. He addresses that in his letter, and again, he addresses it in each of those instances. Hole one tee box one of the comments made at the plan commission meeting was this tee box. It was built 10 years ago that it would ultimately cause golf balls in backyards as he indicates specifically in that letter that this will not happen. One of the things that happens with regards to this, and this is a very minute piece or percentage of the golf course of these 19 lots that are being done and the percentage of the amount of property that is owned by the golf course, it is a very small percentage. We're not talking about a great deal, but in each of the instances, the hole two redesign again brought up the plan commission, changing the hole there from par five to a par three, it will reduce the chance of golf balls actually reaching homes. Likewise, hole 10, one of those areas that likewise will be done and that would be the area that runs along Charlestown Pike in that particular instance. The home will be directly in the play, it's false. One of the things that will occur with the redesign of the golf course is the fact that they will be bringing in a pro to redo that, a golf course design pro. It's not going to be, they're just gonna willy-nilly make a determination of where to place these. The other piece that I think is important, and again, this is from the city, my client met and walked the golf course with the city engineer, Andy Crouch. He walked specifically in these areas where these houses would be placed and specifically addressed that. And also in looking at that, he indicated this can be done also recognizing the fact that the drainage issues with regards to the experience of those folks downstream and those folks complaining will actually be better because of this design. And ultimately, that's Mr. Copperwaite's job in designing the drainage that meets the requirements of your drainage ordinance. You might notice in that 2018 decision, not only was the Plan Commission named a party, so was the drainage board, because in that particular instance, what occurred was the drainage board kept tabling it for four months in order to get a vote that might come the opposite direction of what my client wanted. The vote did come, and specifically when it did come, it was to deny the project, but ultimately it was a situation that was ultimately overturned by the court. In that particular instance,Judge Duvall, who was at that time Scott Circuit Court judge, was special judge serving in that particular case. He specifically addressed and stated in the decision the drainage issues were improperly raised in the Plan Commission meetings of July 25th, 2017, and all meetings prior, all addressed issues not on the real estate, but downstream off the real estate. And as such, the plan commission improperly requested the preliminary plat be tabled and read, meaning my client had approval of the Jeffersonville drainage board counter. It's important that you look at all of these issues. One last issue that was raised by Mr. Reischl. Now, this was the only real issue in all four of his determinations, which was the value. Mr. Keith Lewis was here from Ronnie Galloway appraisals. He was here to address the fact and his letter is part of the record. Likewise, that letter was dated August 25th, indicating the five elements that are required under the terms of the zoning, under the terms of a rezone, he addressed every one of them. He is a licensed appraiser, has been doing so since 1961. I'll let Jason very quickly touch on the engineering side." Jason Copperwaite- "I just wanna say the Lochmueller report did not say prohibit development in the watershed. What it said was identify floodplains and prohibit development in those areas, not the entire area. You have a very talented drainage board, you have a very talented city engineer. I see no reason why we can't overcome any drainage issues that are out there." Council President Stoner speaking to Jason Copperwaite- "So, from Lock Mueller City, contracted with you to do a study?" Jason Copperwaite- "Not with me, with an independent third-party engineering firm." Council President Stoner- "Ok." Attorney John Kraft- "Jason is with Primavera & Associates, it was Lochmueller Group that the city contracted with through the drainage board." Council President Stoner- "Okay, and then Mr. Kraft, the case that you referenced, was that based upon a plat determination or was that a rezone?" Attorney John Kraft- "That was based upon a plat determination." Council President Stoner- "That's not really applicable to this conversation." Attorney John Kraft- "Correct, and I'm not gonna sit here today and tell you that it was a rezone. No, it was a plat determination. But again, it relied upon the fact of all of these issues of drainage. And if you read specifically the decision by Judge Duvall, he addresses those not as it relates to plats, but again, the same thing holds true on a rezoning. You can't consider what's happening in other real estate. You have to consider the real estate that is being requested to be rezoned. His decision is very specific with regards to that issue.The same issue holds true here. You can't look at what happens downstream if they're reducing the amount of drainage coming off of this property. So the result is the same. Even though there is a ministerial review of a plat, this is discretionary. The drainage piece of this remains the same. And that is, you're talking about this real estate, not what is happening elsewhere." Council President Stoner- "Thank you Mr. Kraft." Councilperson White- "I remember that case. I believe I voted to approve that, and the cost to the city was over$600,000, taxpayer dollars." Attorney John Kraft- "That would be a fair statement, yes. In addition to the Lochmueller report, correct." Council President Stoner- "All right, so we're still in the public hearing. Is there anyone else to speak for or against? I think we have some other people that would like to speak." Councilperson Hawkins- "Do you want to let Alan go?" Council President Stoner- "Okay, that's fine, yeah, Alan can go." Attorney Alan Applegate with Stoll Keenon Ogden stepped to the podium to speak. Attorney Alan Applegate- "Alan Applegate, Stoll Keenon Ogden. We've had two long Plan Commission meetings. We've had two attorneys, and they differ. Mr. Kraft said that they have an appraiser who said there would be no reduction in property value. We have appraisers who say there will be, and we have engineers who saw it differently. So it appears that, regardless of the alleged misstatements that I apparently made—since I've somehow become a liar after 30 years in front of you all—you have a misunderstanding that the property floods. It floods because too much water goes to this property. As to the case that John mentioned, I have all the documents; I brought those tonight, but you don't need them because he's provided them. In City of Madison v. Demaree (2017), this is a rezoning. As long as you pay attention to the factors on the first page of your handout (see attachment), the factors you are to consider for rezoning—then your decision is legislative, much different than the Shirley Arbor Park case that was much discussed. Cases have supported that a plat is different from rezoning. Yours is a legislative action. You had two Plan Commission meetings with different members attending, but not one of those members voted to give a favorable recommendation. So we have different viewpoints, as we all do in this wonderful United States. We've had a lot of discussion about it, and you have the legislative right to confirm what the Plan Commission recommended. This does not lead to a $600,000 lawsuit. You have the authority to do that. Regarding drainage, Demaree specifically says the Plan Commission considered the presentation of Demaree's counsel as well as the concerns of the residents. The Commission heard and contemplated evidence and the character of current structures in the area, which is in that checklist we presented. People will speak to traffic and ingress. The only issue at ingress is after heavy rains. Consider the best use of the property, traffic congestion, property values, the comprehensive plan, drainage issues, and privacy issues. As a result, the legislative action taken by that city council was approved. I won't go into the Shirley Arbor Park case anymore. I will say that you should consider your ordinance: Article One of your ordinance, your UDO, says it is intended to guide growth. It is adopted for the purpose of securing adequate safety from fire, flood, and other dangers. That's what this is about. I'd ask you to follow the Plan Commission recommendation. With that, I would like to introduce Mr. Paul Frink. He's a resident of Gulf View Estates, an engineer with a master's degree in groundwater hydrology, and he will talk about flooding." Paul Frink stepped to the podium to speak and share a power-point presentation containing photos of flooding in the area being discussed. A copy of the power-point will be filed with the minutes at the Clerk's office. Paul Frink- "My name is Paul Frink and I live at 2102 Augusta Dr. I'm here to speak to local flooding issues that will be impacted by the proposed rezoning. With a degree in civil engineering and an emphasis in groundwater hydrology, I have experience in this area. In 2017, the Lochmueller Group completed a study of the Gulf View drainage basin for the city. It examined the basin as a whole, so it is valid from that standpoint. I've reviewed the report in detail, and I believe it still applies to the current situation. The study recommended the design and construction of new drainage features and the enlargement of existing ones that are currently at or over capacity. It also suggested that the city prohibit any further development within the floodplain. This slide is a view from the Lochmueller study. It shows the drainage basin. The red lines mark the sub basins, which generally flow from right to left. The blue line represents the center of the flow path through the golf course—specifically, the front nine.The two yellow dots represent bottlenecks: one at the railroad tracks at the bottom of Waverly, and more importantly, one at Hamburg Pike. The culvert there is a bottleneck, and all the drainage water from this basin must flow through it. Next, I want to show some pictures of the area during normal conditions and during flooding when the drainage features are overwhelmed. Slide two shows fairways number three and four on a normal dry day (issues with zoom delayed the sharing of the power point presentation). Councilperson Reed- "that's the same material in the packet that you gave us?" Paul Frink- "Most of it is, I have a video. But sure, let's walk through the slides, and then I'll try to show the video, good thought. Anyway, slide two shows the third and fourth fairways on a dry day. The next slide shows the same area following a storm event. In this case, the "bathtub" is full, and the culvert at Hamburg Pike is overwhelmed. The next slide shows a channel and culvert along Augusta on a dry day. Following that, a slide during a storm event shows the bathtub full again, with water cascading across the third fairway into the drainage channel, which is almost completely overwhelmed. This is a view of the same drainage channel, and you can see that erosion is starting along the sides of the channel. The riprap armoring the channel is also visible. Another picture shows the culverts under Augusta Drive, where all the storm flow comes from the Elk Point development, one of the most recent developments. All the water flows down this pathway. Now I would like to try and show a short video, as I think it's important. It was not included in your packet. Council President Stoner- "Before you start that video, thank you. This is one of the things that Mr. Wilder was trying to confirm at the beginning. Our rules technically indicate that each person would get four minutes. I just want to check in with the Council: are we comfortable allowing people more than four minutes, or would you like me to..." Councilperson Webb- "Due to his technical difficulties, I think we should give him a little bit more time." Attorney John Kraft- "We never stopped the clock though when he had technical difficulties." Paul Frink- "So, yeah, I can do this presentation in three and a half minutes without technical difficulty." Council President Stoner- "I don't like to set that standard, obviously, because I want to be fair to everyone. But if the Council is comfortable with that, then we will go with it." Councilperson Semones- "I don't feel like I need to show the video, and I prefer to stick to the rules. Just my opinion." Paul Frink- "Ok, ditch the video." Larry wilder reminded Mr. Frink of where he was at with his time. Paul Frink- "Let's jump to some other pictures—just the last slide. The Lochmueller study provided six recommendations. The previous slides have shown the need for recommendations three, four, and five, which have not been completed. Recommendation six suggests no further development in Gulf View. The supporting drainage infrastructure is insufficient to support additional development. We do not want to see our neighborhood designated as a floodplain like Oak Park, or be forced to buy flood insurance, or suffer reduced property values or property damage. I thank you for your time. Council President Stoner- "Thank you. Moving forward, I'm going to assert that when we reach four minutes, people will stop speaking so that we can be fair to everyone. I'll be the "bad guy" on that one." Next speaker stepped to the podium; Jeff Roach, 2306 Augusta Dr. Jeff Roach- "I'll be under four minutes. How are you doing? All right. I gave you the package with the map on it. We're going to bypass the technology since it's not working very well, but you can look at the materials I handed out. My name is Jeff Roach. I live across from hole number one on the golf course, which is area number three on their proposal. We have lived there since 2009, so I am very aware of all the issues in this area. I believe the engineers who designed the golf course purposely left that area undeveloped to serve as a natural retention basin for drainage. I know this is a drainage board meeting, but by approving the zoning change, it will cause more flooding—not drainage, which is the key word—to an area that is already overwhelmed with flooding and would adversely affect our property values. This is not responsible development. In the map I showed you, given to us by the golf course owners, I drew arrows representing the direction of water flow from the entire four-or five-acre site. This entire lay of the land drains to that spot, including runoff from Charlestown Pike and Augusta Drive. Neither of these roads has storm sewers, so the water drains directly into the grass. The black area I drew represents the natural retention basin.They have highlighted in orange the property they want to build the house on, plus three new tee boxes. They have not left any space for runoff in this area. I want to emphasize that most of Gulf View is built without storm sewers. All the water goes through creeks, ditches, and a couple of ponds. Every other neighborhood built after Gulf View was constructed with storm sewers, and most of their water also flows into our creeks and ditches, which are overwhelmed during heavy storms. He talked about 50- and 100-year rain events—we experience them every year, sometimes multiple times. The pictures he showed you demonstrate that, several times in the spring, conditions are similar. When the golf course floods, it is a minor inconvenience because people cannot play golf. But when that same water floods our properties, it causes damage to our land, homes, and resale values. No one in this room would want that for their home. The owners of the golf course have proven they are aware of the issues—they've seen all these pictures and know the problems better than anyone—but they submitted the same plan that previously received an unfavorable recommendation from the zoning board, both earlier in the year and again last week.This is not fair to the people who already have homes in that area. The corner of Augusta Drive and Charlestown Pike has an underground pipe installed around 2010, but it did not solve the problem. You can partially see the natural retention basin, which looks like a pond during heavy rains five or six months out of the year. You would sink to your knees if you tried to walk on this property unless they plan to build the house on stilts. It is not even a habitable lot. The golf course owners have owned this property for 10 years and are very aware of the water issues, which makes me question their judgment in trying to build a house there. Even with an elaborate underground drainage system, that water still has to drain somewhere, and it would inevitably flow downhill to our side of the road, which is already overwhelmed with drainage in at least three areas. The solution cannot be to keep adding more and bigger pipes. This only causes more issues for people downstream. The second picture I gave you shows what happens behind my neighbor's house. The city added two new pipes under Charlestown Pike in 2019 when six homes were added behind us, yet the problem persists. Water backs up into our yards because the pipes cannot handle the volume, and it ends up flowing over Charlestown Pike, creating a significant health and safety risk, especially at night. I am done, I believe someone else will be speaking about the downstream issues.Thank you for your time. Do you have any questions for me?" Council President Stoner- "Mr. Roach, thank you. Is there anyone else who would like to speak for or against?Just a reminder to everyone—please state your name and address for the record. Thank you." The next speaker stepped to the podium; Monica Uhl, 2507 Saint Andrews Rd. Monica Uhl- "Good evening council members. My name is Monica Uhl. I live at 2507 Saint Andrews Road, which is right across from area one. My specific points are really addressing the comp plan for over 50 years (see attachment). The Elk Run Golf Course has been part of the neighborhood's identity and Jefferson's commitment to recreational space. The 2023 comprehensive plan designates this land as parks and recreation, reaffirmed through public hearings and city council adoption. That plan is updated every seven to 10 years for reason. It reflects our community's long-term vision. Changing the zoning now would ignore that vision. It would disrupt the established character of Gulf View and nearby neighborhoods. Names like Gulf View Estates and Country Club Estates speak to why people invested here in the first place. It would also remove green space that isn't just scenic, it is functional. The golf course plays a role in flood control and storm water absorption, something the comp plan highlights as increasingly critical. Losing that protection means worsening floods and lower quality of life. Finally, while rezoning might help one property owner, it comes at the expense of the community. It risks property values, undermines decades of planning, and sets a dangerous precedent.The comp plan is meant to guide decisions like this. It says this land should remain parks and recreation. I respectfully urge you to uphold the vision and reject the rezoning request. Thanks for your consideration and I welcome any questions." Council President Stoner- "Thank you, ma'am. Who else do we have?" The next speaker stepped to the podium; Fred Bremer, 1508 Charlestown Pike Fred Bremer- "Good evening. My name is Fred Bremer. I, along with my wife, live at 1508 Charlestown Pike, the property immediately next to area four. I'm here on behalf of ourselves and our neighbors to urge you to oppose the zoning change for area four. Area four sits in a basin, and around the basin are large brick, single-family, one-and two-story homes with spacious lots. Across the street from area four is Country Club Estates. Even though it is a patio home community, there are many large open green areas and they've made maximum use of common area. On the other hand, with one exception, area four offers 50-foot frontage lots. To put that in context, our home's front elevation is just short of 70 feet, and we still have yards on both sides. This would make area four appear very narrow and crammed in. It's not in keeping with the area's open and spacious character. Area four is very low; in fact, it is the low point of the basin, which handles drainage for most of the west side of the club's back nine. In the spring, especially during relatively wet periods, the lots marked as lot 14 and 15 are so wet that the mowers actually sink, and I've had to watch them being pulled out. If that ground can't support a lawnmower, how will it support a house?Another issue that hasn't been discussed much is safety. Charlestown Pike is a narrow two-lane road carrying residential traffic, commercial traffic including dump trucks, semis, and school buses. Since Thomas Jefferson and Wilson have been combined into Pike, many buses travel from the west side to the new elementary school. The speed limit is 35 miles per hour, occasionally followed. Looking at the area, having homes there would require entering Charlestown Pike where there is a dip in the road that prevents seeing oncoming traffic. In the packet, pages six and seven include photographs I took from my driveway (see attachment), which has the advantage of a better line of sight at driver-eye height. Even large vehicles are almost hidden behind that hilltop. As a driver coming out, you face fast-moving traffic from your right and hidden traffic moving at a similar speed from your left. Across from you is the entrance to Gulf Country Club Estates, creating a confusing traffic pattern that's prone to collisions. Vehicles moving through that area at 40 miles per hour travel 60 feet per second." Council President Stoner- "Thank you, sir. Very much appreciate it. Do we have anyone else to speak for or against?" The next speaker stepped to the podium; Theresa Treadway, 2104 Augusta Dr. Theresa Treadway- "Good evening. My name is Theresa Treadway. I live at 2104 Augusta Drive. I'm here as a concerned property owner, along with neighbors, golfers, concerned citizens, all opposing the rezoning for Hoosier Fairway Elk Run Golf Course.This course is zoned parks and recreation and has served as an important recreational area and natural landmark for nearly six decades, and the home golf course for Jeff High golf team for as long as I can remember. We're not against development, but what we are against is defacing and diminishing the integrity of a golf course by cutting down trees, moving tee boxes and cart paths to build homes on the golf course. The overall safety of the proposed homes will be in the line of fire from golfers, increasing the probability of damage to property or persons. I'm so glad someone was listening to me the last meeting, more than 10 years ago. The golf course moved number one tee box to where it is now to decrease the amount of balls hitting homes. The proposed plan to move number one tee box back to the original location is going to increase the probability of balls hitting homes. Once again, Augusta Drive is the most traveled street for through traffic and emergency vehicles. If homes are constructed on Augusta Drive across from existing homes and a car is parked on each side of the street, it allows 17 and a half feet for through traffic. A fire engine needs 20 feet, therefore creating a safety hazard for emergency vehicles to travel the street. Furthermore, this is not responsible development or growth in our area.The construction of new homes along the edges of the course and the proposed areas will obstruct scenic views of existing property owners and affect property values and resale, no matter the sales price of the new homes. I have two letters from appraisers, and I believe they were in your packet. One states with obstructing the view of the golf course, it would be detrimental to the market value of homes. Another states that this would have a negative effect on the marketability of our property. I also have a letter from one of the top real estate agents in southern Indiana stating homes with golf course views typically command a premium price due to the aesthetics and peaceful setting. So blocking the view can significantly reduce the property value. Also, I believe in your packet was a story published in Parks and Recreation Magazine by Dr. John Compton, a professor at Texas A&M University, who reviewed 21 studies that measured the impact of golf courses on property values. All were published in peer-reviewed journals, which provided assurance that the research techniques producing the results were sound. The conclusion was frontage golf course premiums typically averaged between 15 to 30%, which is much higher than 8 to 10%typically associated with properties fronting onto passive parks. Golf View is a community subdivision that we chose to live in for the golf course. Large lots and great homes with a fantastic park-like setting. Do not destroy the legacy and heart of this course and well-established neighborhood. With all the stress that has come with this rezoning, it has created stronger bonds and friendships with neighbors, with a common goal of protecting our subdivision. Thank you to this board, we gratefully ask for your denial of this rezoning." Council President Stoner- "Ok, who was next?Whenever you're ready, sir." The next speaker stepped to the podium; Marty Chalfant, 2304 Saint Andrews Rd. Marty Chalfant- "My name is Marty Chalfant. I live at 2304 Saint Andrews Road. Neighbors are here because this proposal devalues our homes, increases flooding, eliminates green space, impacts traffic safety, conflicts with a comp plan, and sets a precedent for the applicant to rezone the entire golf course. My guess if this was your home, you would be here too. Statute requires that you give reasonable regard to five criteria. Our speakers presented details about each, but I'd like to highlight a few points to wrap up our presentation (see attachment). Alan showed how this proposal conflicts with the comp plan. Our neighborhood has existed in its current condition and structural character for over 50 years, and its property values increase because its makeup has stood the test of time. The applicant probably purchased the golf course in large part because of these characteristics. Mr. Kraft stated in February they were not thinking of developing the golf course into a residential subdivision if this was approved. Ladies and gentlemen, this will set a precedent for future requests to rezone the entire golf course, and they know that. The golf course zoning has been parks and rec for over 50 years, and that is still the most desirable use for the city, neighborhood and welfare of its residents. A golfer told me when he goes to Hilton Head, he pays more for a condo with a golf course view than one without. People pay more for ocean views in Florida and river views on the Ohio. Homes across the street from Duffy's Landing have river views that enhance their value, take away the view and the value goes down. We presented third party opinions in a national study of golf course values. To support this, the applicant says this proposal won't negatively affect property values. This proposal increases flooding, eliminates premium views, and reduces the property values of existing homeowners. This proposal is not responsible growth and development for all the reasons listed in the opening paragraph. FEMA defines a floodplain as any land susceptible to being inundated by flood waters from any source. The comp plan states where flood prone areas are already developed, care should be taken to ensure that such development is not expanded. The UDO section 6.4 allows the city to deny this development. The flooding pictures and watershed study support that reasoning. The applicant re-recorded three different zoning commitments. The latest says the lot sizes will match the attached site layout. It is notable that the commitment cannot be enforced by any of the neighborhood, the people most affected. The commitment does not obligate the council to approve the application. The commitment can also be revoked or modified at any point in the future. So if the applicant or any subsequent owner ever has the votes at any time in the future, they can apply to have it revoked and the commitment is gone, it offers no protection for the neighbors. They can discard the plan they're showing and develop small lots with high density that devalue the existing homes and do not meet the standards of the adjacent properties or character of the neighborhood and nobody can stop 'em. It is not responsible growth and development when the applicant can get out of all the commitments and promises they made to obtain the rezoning after they get it. If you've ever had someone promise you something and then break that promise, you understand the applicant's plan. Ladies and gentlemen, our opposition is based on the five criteria outlined in statute. We are asking you to uphold the unfavorable recommendation and turn down this proposal, thank you for your time." The next speaker stepped to the podium; Robert Lanum, 1530 Golf Hill Dr. Robert Lanum- "My name is Robert Lanham, I live at 1530 Gulf Hill Drive. Which is in the right across the street from this area four that they're talking about along Charlestown Pike. I'm not gonna take your time very much. I joined the Elks Club in the 1950s, so from a historical standpoint, I've got a lot of memories about what's gonna happen, what's happened out there. When I joined the Elks Club, Oaks was a pig farm, okay?So things happen, things change and change for the better. I've had three homes on the golf course, all of which backed up to the golf course, so I had a golf view. I'd have that now, except the view I have now of the golf course is a dead tree that's 200 feet tall. So these houses aren't gonna really interfere with my view. I'm not here tonight to argue against all the things that have been said. I agree with, with all the prior speakers.The flooding has been a real problem. The real problem started when Elk Point was developed and planned. There were retention ponds designed in Elk Point when the developer took over, he built on the retention ponds. So water flows, everybody knows water flows downhill and it's gonna flood and it started flooding the Elk, well the golf course at that time. But what I'm concerned about right now for me is the safety of the cars. If they build up those five or six houses on Charlestown Pike, you go, look out there, it's about a 20 foot drop from Charlestown Pike to the flat of the golf course they built. If they built five houses there, they're gonna have to back out onto Charlestown Pike, and having lived there since 2004, I built the current place in 2004. There are thousands of cars that go by that place a week, Charleston Pike at one time was a county road, which led to almost nowhere. Now it's a city street that has traffic that's unbelievable with trucks, cars and delivery trucks particularly, and then we have the new schools on at the end of it. So if you're down in that hill, down that hole and you try to back out, there's gonna be some big accidents sooner or later. 'Cause you cannot see from Elk Point drive to the point where they're gonna try to build those lots, and I think it's a safety situation. I don't care about whether I look at 'em or not, that's not my problem, but I'm worried about the safety of the people who would move in there. I thank everyone, thank you." The next speaker stepped to the podium; Victor Beeler, 1510 Oakmont Dr. Victor Beeler- "Good evening. My name is Victor Beeler, I live at 1510 Oakmont Drive, in a neighborhood commonly referred to as Gulf View East. I live on the backside of the golf course, directly across from hole 12. I would characterize my house as having a golf view, not golf frontage. I think that's pretty important for you to distinguish. To have golf frontage on your house, you need to live on the golf course proper. There are a couple people in the audience who actually live on the frontage of the golf course and not the golf view that we have. I was here at the last meeting. I continue to urge, on behalf of the Kirch customers, that you consider this is not the drainage board. This is actually an opportunity to fix several issues with our friends in Gulf View. If we want to shed water off this golf course properly, then it's time to fix the rip rap in the ditch on Augusta Drive. That hasn't been fixed since it was put in when Elk Point was there. Maybe actually go back and put the culverts that are on the opposite side—the home side of Augusta Drive—back in place as I can remember from the 1980s and 1990s, because they are no longer there. It still continues under some driveways, but very little that way. Also, the silt and overflow that have come out of Elk Point and other developments between here and there have rendered the ponds on holes three and eight virtually useless. I would urge you to believe that your city engineer, when he walks out there with Matt and says this is a possibility to fix this water and drainage issue, that there is indeed an opportunity to address it. I am disappointed to see a small business owner treated this way. I can remember when this golf course was purchased 10 years ago. They were the only family that came to the Elks—the paternal order of Elks—with the commitment that it would stay a golf course.The rest were developers; their effort was to preserve it for the next generation as well. I think it's disingenuous to question both Wayne and Matt's character and say that they will present something to the city and to the neighbors and then relent on it later. That's shameful to do in open public session. There are several people that I've seen on social media in the last few days who have asserted that the mayor is going to step in to buy the golf course. I would say, with the police changes we've seen and the attitudes that took place, I don't think the city of Jeffersonville has any money laying around to buy a golf course. If they would in the future, that would be great—maybe that'll take place, but I wouldn't count on it very much. There are several people still in this room today who don't want to speak, but they are here to raise their hands and show support, so anybody in favor, raise your hands. Thank you for your time." The next speaker stepped to the podium; Jim Bradshaw, 1820 Charlestown Pike Jim Bradshaw- "I'm Jim Bradshaw, 1820 Charlestown Pike, also known as Elk Ground Golf Club. I guess I started all this 10 years ago when the Elks organization was just bleeding money—some because of the National Elks rules and some because of their own mismanagement.They put it up for bid. Two bidders came forward, both very adamant that they were going to develop it, they had surveyors out there. I've been playing at that course since 1970, all these golf course views—I've never seen anybody out there enjoying it except when they're driving or out mowing their yard, maybe. But I said, I want it to stay a golf course. I'm not from Jeffersonville; I'm from Charlestown. I wanted a golf course down here, I knew what it meant to the community, I knew what it meant to me. So yeah, I started—I wrote a check, Wayne wrote a check, and we bought it. The night we bought it, Matt and I went out and had a burger and beer while we were sitting there. He said, "I want you to make me a deal." Gentleman's agreement. I said, "What's that?" He said, "In 10 years, if we're still viable, I want to buy you out, I want this for my kids, for my brother's kids, for their kids. I want it here for a long time." We shook on it, I said, under one condition: you're going to buy me out for what I'm putting into it right now. Could I have spent more money? Oh, hell yeah, everybody could. But I said, no, this is the deal. This year we stuck to the deal, he bought me out. I'm still there, I'm still involved, I still have to make decisions. I hear a lot of stuff, and I hear about this flooding. It's a darn shame we don't have some time-lapse photos of the floods because I'd like to see what it looks like four hours later, five hours later, or the next day when golfers are out there playing. So yeah, does the course flood? Yeah, a couple times a year. Does it go away quickly?Yeah. So all that is noise, all I'm hearing is noise. I do have a question, there are a couple members of the council that are on the planning and zoning commission. Do you all understand—and I know one person here understands—due diligence because we've discussed it before. Do y'all understand the term due diligence?" Council President Stoner- "Sir, if you could please just address your comments to the chair, myself. We're not going to be in a back-and-forth with the council members." Jim Bradshaw- "I'm just asking because none of the planning and zoning commission or council members have come out to talk to the people who are going to do this.They haven't come out to talk to Matt, Wayne, or me. They've talked to their contributors, their friends, but they haven't talked to us. That's a lack of due diligence, and as the chair, you should be disappointed in them—deeply disappointed. We ask people to do the right thing, and now it's time to do the right thing here. If you want to see something around for perpetuity, to see it around for a long time, sometimes you've got to progress and make changes.That's all Matt and Wayne are trying to do. And I'm sorry I didn't kill 20 trees and bring it to pass around. I heard tree comments here, and other than, well, how many did we cut down, Wayne? 65?And all the oaks that are dying out there, according to the arborists we bring in, there will be more coming down. I'm sorry—that's just the lifespan of trees. I'll be happy to answer any questions, thank you." Council President Stoner- "Thank you, sir. Do we have anybody else to speak for or against? Alright, hearing none, I will now close the public hearing and open the floor for council discussion, comments, and questions." Council President Stoner closed the public hearing at 07:29 PM. Attorney John Kraft-"Can I have an opportunity?" Larry Wilder- "Oh, Mr. Kraft, yes, you have 13 minutes." Attorney John Kraft- "Thank you, and Mr. Copperwaite, several things I think are important, and Mr. Bradshaw addressed a number of those. Once again, I think you have to look at Chad Reischl's report, his staff report on each of these rezoning's. First and foremost, understand this is a land use, this is not a development plan. Part of what happens after a land use is what's going to have to happen. It comes back to the Plan Commission for purposes of a plat. In this instance, four plats, and those four plats are required to meet the requirements of the zoning commitment. Don't be afraid of what some of these folks have told you. Well, they're gonna take it away from you. If you look at the zoning commitment, the zoning commitment is binding upon the developer and the city. It can only be revoked or rescinded by a vote of the City Council. It ultimately comes to you, and you have that enforcement capability. It also specifies the lot sizes to meet what is currently there. So when you look at these issues and you look specifically at the staff report, the staff report addresses all of those statutory issues under Indiana Code 36-7-4-603, including the comprehensive plan, current conditions and character, structures and use in each district, the most desirable use for which the land in each district is adopted, conservation of property values, and responsible development and growth. The only issue that was addressed in that staff report was converting the golf course property and devaluing the properties. I'm going to let Mr. Copperwaite touch a bit on the percentage. Everybody's speaking like we're taking away 50%of the golf course, we're taking away 20%of the golf course. But you're going to hear from him the minute portion of this that is being used for this development. When you truly look at the comprehensive plan, and on page two of 17 on all of those reports, Mr. Reischl addresses the future land use map, planning districts, and the comprehensive plan.This particular property isn't located in Planning District Six, West Jeffersonville. He likewise addresses what is necessary to address this report on all four of these rezoning's. The only real issue he raised was one of value. I find it interesting that the only live person that appeared that could be questioned and cross-examined, if you desire, was a gentleman from Ronnie Galloway, who has experience appraising golf courses since 1961. Not some piece of paper handed by a realtor or broker, but a live person was at the Plan Commission meeting to address those. When you consider all of those elements, it's important to note that the situation regarding the drainage, whether raised by Mr. Frink or Mr. Roach, once again, this is a development plan. It must go to the drainage board in order to get approval. Likewise, I found it a little humbling that Mrs. Uhl says that the green space is functional green space. This is private property, this is not municipal property, and merely because it's zoned for 50 years PR, and it's the only parcel in the city that is zoned PR that is privately owned, the city is yet trying to control it again by denying the rezoning, if that's what you choose to do. Likewise, Mrs. Treadway addressed the same situation that it's the community's subdivision because the golf course, according to Mr. Kurt Kirchgessner's letter, is used by high school golf teams for free due to a private businessman who, allegedly by some, is in it for the money. He doesn't charge any of these kids to play. They come and they play for free. So again, you've got a community service being done by a private business person. I'm sorry, Mrs. Reed, did I say something that amused you?" Larry Wilder- "Please proceed Mr. Kraft." Attorney John Kraft- "That I will. But again, I take exception to that fact." Larry Wilder- "She has an opportunity to express herself." Attorney John Kraft- "Well, again, I'm speaking. I think it's important to specifically note that the Kirchgessners are in this to develop this small portion of the real estate, no more. The commitment does that. Certainly, as we can see from the folks that have shown up, they want the ability to continue to control the golf course. They want enforcement rights with regards to the zoning commitment. They don't trust you, apparently, because they say, if you get a different administration in, you're going to change it.The commitment is what it is, it's recorded. I'm going to let Mr. Copperwaite speak to the engineering issues." Jason Copperwaite- "I've already addressed the drainage, you have a talented city engineer and drainage board, and I feel very confident that we can overcome any drainage issues. As far as the percentage of the site, the golf course is a total of 120 acres. Our clients are proposing to develop just over five acres, which is about 4.4%of the overall golf course, more than 95%of the course will remain as it is today. They're going to relocate some tees and some greens under the guidance of a professional golf course designer. The purpose of doing this, as you can read in Mr. Kirchgessner letter, is the sustainability of the golf course moving forward. He chastised me at the planning commission—not that they're having an issue—but obviously, to sustain the golf course into the future, that is their plan: to continue to operate it as a golf course. But they would like this small development area to help them sustain that." Attorney John Kraft- "On the drainage piece, it has been suggested that the golf course is causing the problems. I think, again, Mr. Copperwaite can speak to the drainage plan and the intent of the drainage ordinance with regard to this project." Jason Copperwaite- "The golf course receives the drainage from around the site. The Lochmueller report identified some blockages at Hamburg Pike and at the railroad downstream. Most of that drainage is honestly caused by Golf View and some of the other developments that were done without drainage improvements, which are required now and would be installed as part of this development. The proposed lots are on the high side of areas that would be out of the drainage ways. The golf course has the unique ability, because of all the land they have, to improve the drainage within their site and hold back whatever water comes off these lots." Attorney John Kraft- "We're asking this evening that you pass the ordinance with regards to the rezoning on all four of these pieces, which would be PR to R-1 on areas one, two, and three, and PR to R-2 in area four, thank you." Councilperson White—"Mr. Kraft, you had mentioned the high school plays there and they have their matches there." Attorney John Kraft- "Yes." Councilperson White- "Do they also have PGA,Junior PGA, First Tee?" Attorney John Kraft- "They have, and I'll ask Wayne—he's here—but they have junior camps. They also have juniors come in and compete, am I correct?" Councilperson White- "If Jim could speak to that." Attorney John Kraft- "Yeah, let Mr. Bradshaw speak to that." Jim Bradshaw steps to the podium. Jim Bradshaw- "You're talking about junior golf?" Councilperson White- "Yes." Jim Bradshaw- "We have PGA Junior League, which last time had about 56 participants. We also have Jeffersonville, Silver Creek, sometimes Providence, Clarksville High Schools out there, Charlestown and when they have a team New Washington. We have all those schools, boys and girls. And surprisingly, we don't charge them a dime. We don't charge high schools anything. The Junior League pays a nominal amount, mostly to cover having extra teachers there. They get PGA instruction, and I'd say we've had three or four go on to play golf in college. One just started at IUS this year. We're very proud of that, and nothing makes me happier than seeing kids out there playing." Councilperson White- "I know a few years ago we had one that went to Hanover and played golf." Jim Bradshaw- "Yes." Councilperson White- "Is the First Tee the same thing as the Junior PGA?" Jim Bradshaw- "No. First Tee is a little bit different. The closest First Tee is in Louisville, but according to their bylaws, they can't come across state lines, so we can't participate. The other one closest to us is in Indianapolis. The PGA Junior League, which is nationwide, allows courses to set their own teams. In Indiana this year, the 11-to 13-year-old team made it there. There are first rounds on Saturday and the finals on Sunday, they made it to Sunday. Indianapolis is a little bigger than Jeffersonville, they have unbelievable junior programs up there. All the pros participate, and it's great—they have colleges like Marion, Anderson, IUPUI, Franklin, and University of Indianapolis, there are a lot of good schools up there. Our kids came into the second day and came within five strokes of advancing to the regional, which is pretty impressive for Jeffersonville." Councilperson White- "Thank you." Council President Stoner- "Alright, thank you, is there anyone else to speak? Okay. I will now close the public hearing and open it up for council comments or discussion. Mr. Wilder, when we go forward to vote on the rest of these, do we need to open public hearings for the rest of them individually, or can we do it....?" Larry Wilder- "I think what we determined was, the public hearing to cover all of the matters the threat knowledge as well, so you fulfilled your public hearing and now you can go forward with your counsel. Vote separately, obviously." Council President Stoner- "Sure, okay. I'll now open the floor." Councilperson Reed- "I will say that I'm not an attorney, I was not elected to be an attorney. I was elected to listen to my constituents and the citizens of Jeffersonville. I was elected to interpret zoning rules and regulations in ways that protect our citizens and enhance growth in our city. I will not call into account anyone's character or their ability to do due diligence, because I believe that everyone on this council, and everybody who took the time out of their schedule in this room tonight, did their due diligence and is here in good faith. I look at this and I see a reduction in property value. That is one of the things that we look at. I have talked to several real estate agents and done my due diligence, and they have all said that if you look out of a house and it has a golf course view, it is going to have a better price. That is a very easy thing for me to interpret. I can't support using private resident equity to pay down private debt. At the last meeting with our plan commission, the golf course said it was financially stable and not at risk of closing. So when I look at those two things together, for me, zoning rules are there to protect our residents, the quality of life in our city, and the ability for us to grow as a city. I remain a negative, and that's all I'll say on the matter." Council President Stoner- "Official council discussion or questions?Anybody have any questions?" Councilperson Hawkins- "I did have a couple questions. Are one of these zoning commitments on Charlestown Pike, what would it be—number four in zone four? I had heard in a conversation when I was fielding calls that one of the zoning commitments was to have turnarounds. But is that real? I don't know who to direct that to." Attorney John Kraft- "It is real, Mr. Copperwaite can address it, he'll be designing." Jason Copperwaite- "I don't know if it made it into the zoning commitment, but we had made a commitment at the planning commission to have turnaround driveways on each lot so that there would be no backing out onto Charlestown Pike. If we need to make that a condition of approval, that a zoning commitment be recorded, we can do that with a development plan." Council President Stoner asked Mr. Reischl if there was anything he wanted to add to that, which he did not. Council President Stoner- "So, Mr. Wilder, there's been some discussion about what the council can consider when we deal with zoning considerations. Are you able to discuss that?" Larry Wilder- "So what I'm going to suggest is this: take into consideration all of the information you received, both from Mr. Kraft, Mr. Applegate, and all the individuals that came here to speak today. When you make your decision, take all of that information into consideration. I'm going to suggest that you consider the recommendation provided by your commission, and I believe that each of your decisions should be made on your own based upon what you believe. You understand that the evidence you've heard from all of these separate sources caused you to conclude that your decision is in the interest of the citizens of the city of Jefferson. I would suggest that your decision and your vote should be based upon that, and that your vote should express it." Councilperson Semones- "So I want to thank everyone who came today to speak. There's been a lot of really good information presented on both sides, a lot of passion on both sides. I am certainly weighing all those things. I'll tell you what rang the most poignant for me is the most desirable use. I think there are lots of places in the city where we can build houses. There are not a lot of places where we can expand golf courses or have that use. So I think that's a pretty special thing. Most people in this room think that use of that space is special. They value it. They put their wealth into expressing how they value it. Out of everything I heard today, and there was lots of good stuff, I'm stuck on the most desirable use. I don't think building houses in those locations is the most desirable use. So I'm also a no." Council President Stoner asked if there were any other questions or dialogue, Councilperson Hawkins asked to verify the location of the first ordinance, which confirmed to be located on Saint Andrews. There were no other questions or dialog. Councilperson Semones made a motion to approve the Ordinance, seconded by Councilperson Reed; City Clerk Lisa Gill conducted a roll call vote: Councilperson White- Yes Council Vice President Burns- No Councilperson Semones- No Councilperson Anderson- No Council President Stoner- No Councilperson Reed- No Councilperson Webb- No Councilperson Hawkins- Yes Councilperson Snelling- Yes Motion failed, 3-6. 5. Chad Reischl (PUBLIC HEARING) 2025-OR-38 Ordinance of Rezoning Request for Property Located at 1820 Charlestown Pike (AREA 2)from PR (Parks& Recreational)to Proposed R1 (Single Family Residential-Large Lot) Councilperson Hawkins made a motion to approve the Ordinance, seconded by Councilperson White; City Clerk Lisa Gill conducted a roll call vote: Councilperson White- Yes Council Vice President Burns- No Councilperson Semones- No Councilperson Anderson- No Council President Stoner- No Councilperson Reed- No Councilperson Webb- No Councilperson Hawkins- No Councilperson Snelling-Yes Motion failed, 2-7. 6. Chad Reischl (PUBLIC HEARING) 2025-OR-39 Ordinance of Rezoning Request for Property Located at 1820 Charlestown Pike (AREA 3)from PR (Parks& Recreational)to Proposed R1 (Single Family Residential-Large Lot) Councilperson Semones made a motion to approve the Ordinance, seconded by Councilperson Anderson; City Clerk Lisa Gill conducted a roll call vote: Councilperson White-Yes Council Vice President Burns- Yes Councilperson Semones- No Councilperson Anderson- No Council President Stoner- No Councilperson Reed- No Councilperson Webb- No Councilperson Hawkins-Yes Councilperson Snelling-Yes Motion failed, 4-5 7. Chad Reischl (PUBLIC HEARING) 2025-OR-40 Ordinance of Rezoning Request for Property Located at 1820 Charlestown Pike (AREA 4)from PR (Parks& Recreational)to Proposed R2 (Single Family Residential-Medium Lot) Councilperson Semones made a motion to approve the Ordinance, seconded by Councilperson Reed; City Clerk Lisa Gill conducted a roll call vote: Councilperson White-Yes Council Vice President Burns-Yes Councilperson Semones- No Councilperson Anderson- No Council President Stoner- No Councilperson Reed- No Councilperson Webb- No Councilperson Hawkins-Yes Councilperson Snelling-Yes Motion failed, 4-5 8. Heather Metcalf 2025-OR-41 Ordinance of Additional Appropriation The first item discussed was the appropriation of cash, which is already allocated in the local law enforcement continued fund for$20,000.The second item addressed the remaining balance that is still due for the 911 system. Councilperson Semones made a motion to approve the Ordinance, seconded by Council Vice President Burns; motion passed 9-0 9. Heather Metcalf 2025-OR-42 Ordinance of Transfer Within the Same Department The discussion then moved to end-of-year transfers, including several items for the fire department. A representative from the fire department was present to address any questions, which there were none. Council Vice President Burns made a motion to approve the Ordinance, seconded by Councilperson Semones; motion passed 9-0 ATTORNEY COMMENTS: Larry Wilder—Stated he was glad to be there and that he got the call. Les Merkley- None DEPARTMENT HEADS: None COUNCIL COMMENTS: • Councilperson White—"I hope that the golf course is able to find a way to maintain their viability and find another option for what they need to do to ensure that they maintain a golf course in a place where the public can play golf in a central location. They've been at it for a while, so I hope they stay at it and find solutions that accomplish all the goals. I saw today that the FOP agrees with the city concept. I'm very happy to see that. I was also not surprised that it was 95% of what we had already negotiated, with a little change in the duration and change in the salaries. I figured that would be the case once we handed it over. That's what happened. Very happy for our officers. They deserve to have a contract sensibility and whatever increase that comes. Public safety is a priority, and I thank the officers for all the work they do. We continue to have one of the best well-trained police departments in Indiana. I'm sure the new contract will continue doing the excellent job they do to keep our city safe. That's all I have." • Council Vice President Burns— No Comment • Councilperson Semones— No Comment • Councilperson Anderson—No Comment • Councilperson Reed—"I'd like to thank Kenny Kavanaugh for his service to the city and everything he has done for us. He still showed up tonight, and I appreciate that so much. I'd like to welcome our new chief and just say thank you. I know it's been a really busy season for you, and you have handled a very hard situation with such grace and class. I think that speaks to the strength of your department and to the strength of the city that you serve. I appreciate you both and everything you have done for the city so far." • Councilperson Webb— No Comment • Councilperson Hawkins—"I'd like to echo much of what Donna said, way back in little league football days. I appreciate everything you've done for the city, and moving forward, good luck to the new chief. You show how needed you are when things hit the news, as we've seen since our last meeting. I'm disappointed in some of the results of the golf. For anybody to say that everybody on this board didn't reach their conclusions honestly, is wrong, because every one of us did. I did think a couple times this is just a part-time job, like every other part-time one. It particularly struck home when Councilperson Semones said, this is what stuck out to me, because that is not what stuck out to me. But we're two reasonable people who just looked at the same facts and disagreed. I do hope we can help the Elks in whatever way they need moving forward. I do think they're going to need some upgrades, and they're just looking for ways to accomplish that. I hope we can be a partner in some way with that. That's it." • Councilperson Snelling— I'd like to also thank Kenny Kavanaugh. I've known him my whole life. My son played baseball with him, we grew up together, stayed all night at my house. We did it all. Great guy and also a chief—very good. We need to help the Elks Club if there's any way possible to move forward because they do a lot for the community. They don't always put it out there, but kids in Jeffersonville, Clarksville, Charlestown, and New Washington get to play free golf in the leagues, and they do a lot. If they come before us, we need to think hard about helping them. That's all I have." • Council President Stoner—"I would like to also echo the comments and thank Chief Kavanaugh for his 10 years of dedicated service as Chief. I started getting a lot of phone calls from the press Thursday night, and just shared appreciation for Chief Kavanaugh. I was on a ride-along recently around 3:00 AM on Riverside Drive, and we pulled up—Chief Kavanaugh was there out with someone. He's a dedicated person who never slept. Likewise, I appreciate the relationship with Assistant Chief McVoy, now Interim Chief McVoy, and your dedication to all the men and women of JPD. I would also like to appreciate the mayor's office, Controller Heather Metcalf, and the FOP leadership for getting that contract across the finish line. Definitely appreciate everyone's efforts there. Just as a reminder, we do have budget workshops coming up. Our next one will be the 15th at 5:00 PM, and the next one is on the 23rd, a Tuesday. So I would appreciate everyone's engagement around that." Councilperson White- "Hey open the suggestion to appointments on the Redevelopment Commission. Redevelopment gives a lot of money to schools or has in the past. Maybe that's a discussion that could be had with regard to some of those dollars." ADJOURNMENT: Council President Stoner made the motion to ADJOURN the meeting at 8:03 p.m. DISCLAIMER: These minutes are a summary of actions taken at the Jeffersonville City Council meetings. The full video archive of the meeting is available for viewing at www.cityofjeff.net for as long as this media is supported. AP ROVED B,J' Evan Stoner, Council President ATTEST: Lisa Gill, Clerk Lai mot\/� - 11?Xr-4,40111�� ♦ •♦ •♦ •♦ ••♦ •••••♦ •♦ •♦• •♦♦♦♦♦♦♦\♦ •♦%%•♦♦♦♦♦•••♦♦♦♦♦••♦••••♦♦•\•♦♦♦•♦♦••V"V NAVe1110. - Ifi ``.'i �, i,= • THE CITY OF JEFFERSONVILLE , , , , 0 0 , MAYORAL PROCLAMATION • I • 0 TO ALL TO WHOM THESE PRESENTS MAY COME, GREETING: 0 / / 0 WHEREAS, Indiana's free adult education programs are critical in building a more I 0 informed, literate, and economically resilient citizenry, addressing both social and I jeconomic disparities across the state; and j • I WHEREAS, an estimated 417,501 working-age Hoosiers lack a high school diploma or / 0 equivalency credential and over 300,000 have limited English proficiency, making adult f • education services essential to meeting workforce needs and empowering communities; 0 and; , I IWHEREAS, Indiana's 50 Adult Education programs provide free classes to help adults, f 0 earn a High School Equivalency (HSE) diploma, obtain industry-recognized 0 0 certifications, learn English and prepare for postsecondary education or direct career 0 I entry; and I / WHEREAS, in the 2023-2024 program year, Indiana Adult Education programs served 651 0 over 25,200 adult learners, with outcomes including: 4,201 HSE diplomas earned, I Over 2,800 career certifications awarded, and 72.3% of students making measurable I I • educational progress;and 0 • I WHEREAS, Indiana Adult Education demonstrates a high return on investment, I • generating $74.6 million in economic impact from a $16.9 million state investment, I 0 with an average return of$5,000 per participant and an increase in annual earnings of 0 $8,900 for those attaining a high school credential; and 0 I 0 WHEREAS, Adult Education and Family Literacy week celebrates the perseverance of Iadult learners, the dedication of educators and volunteers, and the power of education 0 to change lives and strengthen our state; 0 I I NOW, THEREFORE, I, Mike Moore, Mayor of the City of Jeffersonville, in the State of I I IIndiana, do hereby proclaim, September 14'h through 20'h, 2025 as: 0 "Adult Education & Family Literacy Week" 0 0 / I 0 IN WITNESS WHEREOF, I have hereunto set my hand and caused the official seal of 0 the City of Jeffersonville to be affixed this 19th day of Augu 2025. I •• 'e tA. • _. j .'., - - Mike Moore I / L '— - - ore Mayoi of Jeffersonville _ 4,/lq• ►a ' _ = �aN1 .0%♦�♦�ia♦♦:^. ♦♦♦♦♦♦♦♦♦♦♦♦♦♦♦♦♦♦I►♦♦♦♦♦♦♦♦♦♦♦♦♦♦♦♦♦♦t♦♦�►♦♦♦♦♦♦♦♦♦♦♦♦♦♦�♦I��I`�tin�. Good evening, Mayor Moore, City Council Members, and fellow community members. I am Dr. Allison Miller, and I am the Director of Indiana and Kentucky for the National Center for Families Learning, NCFL, located in Louisville, Kentucky. I am here tonight on behalf of NCFL, Metro United Way, and River Valley Resources. Thank you for the opportunity to speak today in recognition of National Adult Education and Family Literacy Week. This week— celebrated nationwide from September 14 through September 20— shines a spotlight on a powerful but often overlooked issue: the importance of providing every adult with the opportunity to learn, grow, and fully participate in the economic, civic, and cultural life of our community. nc`(SS - L CulnAINi ruNAL Sib ✓ban, c Aaa tkt lxul C©MM• tif .. C01Yl tl1L lOG1 a-1\V fiQ c Vvcil '6"uQ-(f COMoli r 1L'1C�if K LJ wz& ' c ess th.. g pit d State , r ore than 43 million adults struggle with F j � � I4pI basic literacy, numeracy, or English language skills. We know there are parents in Jeffersonville who want to help their children with homework but can't read the materials. We also know there are tl€ cx 1 workers who want better jobs but lacktthe credentials. aC�r h o� ClAGt MPS �til-h Mc\-e � Ckr k rn rac4- or\ or CUm j�- Adult educatio opens the door o opportunity for each family in our community, to meet these needs and more. When adults gain skills, families become stronger. Children do better in school. The local workforce becomes more competitive, and communities become more resilient, informed, and engaged. National Adult Education and Family Literacy Week also recognizes the importance of family literacy—the critical link between adult learning and child development. When parents engage in learning, their childr n benefit for a lifetime. Literacy becomes a shared ctoco A-0 cn►( c E�r� -t-t <9t?I\ a ed valud. We recognize that a/parent is their child's first and most influential teacher. Family Literacy combines adult education, parent education topics, and Parent and Child Together (PACT Time) opportunities to strengthen a child's overall educational outcomes. Families involved in Family Literacy programming often see their children perform better at school, attend school more frequently, and �U Chr'j1 experience overallledonomic mobility. As city leaders, you can continue to support\adultteducation by j investing in local programs, promoting access, and celebrating the success stories unfolding in our neighborhoods every day. One such event, our Adult and Family Literacy Fair, will take place on Thursday, September 18, 2025, at our Jeffersonville Township Public Library from 3:30 until 6:30 p.m. I will be there with my family, and invite you to join us to learn more. Let's commit to ensuring that literacy is not a privilege, but a right available to all. As we recognize National Adult Education nd Family Literacy din_ii�Cl Ct Sfir(.�10 Literacy 1\'�1,1v1 Week l t us a ew efforts o b ild r��;��h�nre avAr�_n__ k�.Y " h► 1lik cvmI�(� ( .._ regardless ofage, background, or circumstance---laac the opportunity to learn, achieve, and thrive. `N� Thank you. ZONING CONSIDERATIONS A. Current conditions and character of structures and uses in each district; B. The most desirable use for which the land in each district is adapted; C. The conservation of area values throughout the jurisdiction; D. Responsible development and growth; E. 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(Building Jeff, p. 65) Protect green space & stormwater "Open space and green infrastructure function. play critical roles in stormwater management and flood mitigation." (Building Jeff, p. 77) Avoid development that increases "Future development should not occur in flooding risk. areas without adequate stormwater infrastructure; preservation of open space is preferred." (Building Jeff, p. 81) Community interest outweighs "Land use decisions should balance private gain. private interests with the broader public good, prioritizing long-term community resilience." (Building Jeff, p. 20) Prepared for: Jeffersonville City Council, 2 September 2025 Prepared by: Monica Uhl, Golfview Estates Resident F I -:,,, :: . .' '1'. _ • '.,.',',,,.,..„0„.::1. 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Neighbors are here because this proposal devalues our homes, increases flooding, eliminates greenspace, impacts traffic safety, conflicts with the comp plan and sets a precedent for the applicant to rezone the entire golf course. My guess, if this was your home you would be here too! Statute requires that you to give"reasonable regard" to 5 criteria. Our speakers presented details about each but, I'd like to highlight a few points to wrap up our presentation. 1)..the comprehensive plan Alan showed how this proposal conflicts with the comp plan and ignores the watershed study. 2)..current conditions and the character of current structures and uses in each district Our neighborhood has existed in its current condition and structural character for over 50 years and its property values increased because its makeup has stood the test of time. The Applicant probably purchased the golf course in large part because of these characteristics and now they want to destroy them. Mr. Kraft stated in February "they were not thinking of developing the golf course into a residential subdivision if this was approved" (1) Ladies and gentlemen this will set a precedent for future requests to rezone the entire golf course and they know that! This is Phase 1 of Elk Run Subdivision. 3)..the most desirable use for which the land is each district is applied The golf course zoning has been Parks&Rec for over 50 year and that is still the most desireable use for the city, neighborhood, and welfare of its residents. 4)..the conservation of property values throughout the jurisdiction A golfer told me when he goes to Hilton Head he pays more for a condo with a golf course view than one without. People pay more for ocean views in Florida and river views on the Ohio. Homes across the street from Duffy's landing have river views that enhance their values. Take away the view and the values go down. We presented third party opinions and a national study of golf course values to support this. The Applicant says this proposal won't negatively affect property values (2). This proposal increases flooding, eliminates premium views, and reduces the property values of existing homeowners. I 5)..responsible growth and development This proposal is not responsible growth and development for all the reasons listed in the opening paragraph. The Comp Plan states"Where flood-prone areas are already developed, care should be taken to ensure that such development is not expanded." Comp Plan Pg 28 UDO Section 6.4 allows the City to deny this development. The flooding pictures and watershed study support that reasoning. The Applicant recorded 3 different Zoning Commitments ... The latest says the lot sizes will match the attached site layout. It's notable that the Commitment can't be enforced by ANY of the neighborhood residents, the people most affected! The commitment doesn't obligate the Council to approve the application. Ic36-7-4-1015(b)(9) The commitment can also be revoked or modified at any point in the future IC36-7-4-10150) So, if the Applicant or any subsequent owner ever has the votes, at any time in the future, they can apply to have it revoked and the commitment is gone! It offers no protection for the neighbors. They can discard the plan they are showing and develop small lots with high density that devalue the existing homes and don't meet the standards of the adjacent properties or character of the neighborhood, and nobody can stop them! It is not responsible development when the Applicant can get out of all the commitments and promises they made to obtain the rezoning,AFTER they get it. If you've ever had someone promise you something, and then break that promise, you understand the Applicant's plan. Ladies and Gentlemen our opposition is based on the 5 criteria outlined in statue. We are asking you to uphold the UNFAVORABLE recommendation and turn down this proposal. Thank you for your time. References: (1&2)(Feb 25,2025 Jeff Planning Commission Minutes)