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JEFFERSONVILLE, INDIANA
July 1, 2024
Regular Meeting Minutes
The Common Council of the City of Jeffersonville, Indiana met for the Regular Meeting on July 1, 2024.
Council President White along with City Clerk Gill called the meeting to order at 6:01p.m. The meeting
was open to the public in person as well as live streamed via the City Website using Zoom.
INVOCATION:
Led by Jeff Cover
Pledge of Allegiance:
ROLL CALL:
The roll call was conducted by City Clerk Lisa Gill and present in Council Chambers were Councilperson
Burns, Councilperson Semones, Councilperson Reed, Council President White, Councilperson Webb,
Council Vice President Hawkins, Councilperson Snelling and Councilperson Stoner. Councilperson
Anderson was absent. Let the record reflect that 8 Council Members were present in Council Chambers
and 1 absent.
APROVAL OF MINUTES:
Councilperson Stoner made a motion to approve the Minutes for June 17, 2024 Special
Meeting/Workshop, seconded by Councilperson Burns; motion passed, 8-0.
Councilperson Burns made a motion to approve the Minutes for June 17, 2024, seconded by
Councilperson Semones; motion passed, 8-0.
APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA:
Councilperson Reed made a motion to approve the Agenda, seconded by Councilperson Burns; motion
passed, 8-0.
CLAIMS TO APPROVE:
Civil City$2,654,627.55
Council President White advised the Civil City Claims were in the amount of$2,654,627.55. Mrs. Metcalf
advised there were no changes.
Councilperson Anderson made a motion to approve the Civil City Claims, seconded by Councilperson
Burns; motion passed, 8-0.
Parks$163,234.51
Council President White advised the Parks Claims were in the amount of$163,234.51. Mrs. Metcalf
advised there were no changes.
Councilperson Snelling made a motion to approve the Parks Claims, seconded by Councilperson Reed;
motion passed, 8-0.
REPORT OF THE CLERK:
None
UNFINISHED BUSINESS:
1. Heather Metcalf/Kim Calabro 2024-OR-35 (Public Hearing) Ordinance of Additional Appropriation
Mrs. Metcalf advised there were no changes from the last meeting. Council President White stated this
Ordinance was for Human Resources in the amount of$50,000.00 for Computer Software/Maintenance
Fees. Council President White opened the Public Hearing at 6:05 pm, there were no members of the
community present to speak for or against the matter. Council President White closed the Public
Hearing at 6:06 pm.
Councilperson Webb made a motion to approve 2024-OR-34 on the Third and Final Reading, seconded
by Councilperson Stoner; motion passed, 8-0.
NEW BUSINESS:
1. Dustin White—Short Term Rental Discussion
Council President White advised that himself and Councilperson Stoner had attended a Neighborhood
Association meeting at Port Fulton and Franklin Commons and had heard a lot of concerns from
residents regarding short-term rentals, Airbnb's and things of that nature. He felt it was important to
bring it before the full council so residents could voice their concerns. Council President White opened a
public hearing at 6:07 pm, those present to speak on this topic was as follows:
Paulette Feldman who resides on Graham Street and is part of the neighborhood association. She
and her husband moved here eight years ago, loves the community and feels the government here
is accessible to citizens. Her concern of the growth of short-term housing is it needs some oversight
and monitoring and that it has grown so much in Jeffersonville because Louisville has tightened
restrictions on short term rentals. She feels having so many short term rentals could lead into more
of a tourist situation and having strangers instead of neighbors which could lead to problems with
people not wanting to be in the neighborhood. Another concern is these short-term rentals are
knocking out opportunities for first time homeowners. She feels it is turning into a commercial
property, not residential. She is asking for a moratorium so that the City be cognizant of what is
going on in the community. She would also like to see a permitting process for short-term rentals
be put into place.
Veronica Magnuson who resides on Graham Street advised that she is living in her family home that
was built in 1951. She would like to see a special exception application or permitting through the
Zoning Board for all Airbnb, VRBO or any other Short-Term Rentals. There are concerns that without
such a process properties may not be insured properly or up to building occupancy and fire codes.
This would protect both the owner and guests. Then there are concerns about parking, excess trash,
excess noise, foul language, late night parties, an increase in crime, and a reduction in properties for
resident families. There are many people that showed up at the meeting to voice their concerns.
She would like to see a discussion and the issue addressed for how many short-term rentals is too
many. She would like to urge the Council to catch up to the sudden proliferation of these types of
businesses within their single family zoned neighborhoods and communities overall.
Katie Ames who resides on Fulton Street advised that she does not have a problem with Airbnb's.
Being a first time home buyer was excited when the houses down the street from her was being
refurbished that she would have neighbors however one of them was turned into an Airbnb. There
is currently an Airbnb close to her residence and there are different people in and out, lots of noise,
excess trash in the alley and because of people parking in the front, she has to park in the back on
her lawn.
Mary Pardon who resides on Court Ave advised she bought a house in Jeffersonville 50 years ago
and is still there. Her concern with not putting a limit on the number of Airbnb's that can be put in is
the effect it will have on first time home buyers who start out in these neighborhoods.The children
in the neighborhood do not have local friends that they can play with and walk to visit. There is not
the same sense of pride and ownership with Airbnb's. There was a comment on Facebook about
someone that use to live in Jeffersonville and they were glad to hear about the Airbnb's because it is
such a good place to come back to visit. It is such a great place to visit because of the homeowners
that take care and pride in their neighborhoods.
Judy Lloyd who resides on Court Ave advised there is an Airbnb on their street that has three people
living in it which means there are three additional cars parking on street. She has a garage, but
some of the neighbors have to go to the end of the block and unload their groceries because all of
the parking is taken up. It was her understanding that another Airbnb is being planned for the
corner of E. Court and Graham. The parking is already bad. There is plenty of room in the alley for
parking. The owners of the Airbnb should have to provide parking for the guests. She feels the
number of Airbnb's should be limited because it is bringing neighborhoods down.
Carol Stenbro who resides on Market Street advised she owns the Market Street Bed and Breakfast
and she would like to see the playing field leveled. They are the only Bed and Breakfast as far as she
is aware of in Clark County, but there are over 330 Airbnb's in Jeffersonville alone. She would like to
see that they are permitted to do business as an Airbnb and also that they would be licensed to
collect the taxes that are due. The retail tax is 7%and the lodging tax is 6%; at 330 Airbnb's that
would be a lot of money that Jeffersonville might be missing out on as far as tax dollars are
concerned. She would like to see that addressed and also agrees with everyone regarding the other
issues. Councilperson Semones asked Ms. Stenbro where she got the information regarding the
number of Airbnb's in Jeffersonville. Ms. Stenbro advised from a search on Airbnb. Councilperson
Semones asked if she had looked at other short-term rental sites a well or just Airbnb. Ms. Stenbro
advised she only looked at the Airbnb website. Councilperson Semones asked if she had a filter on
that to limit the radius or was that all within the city or county. Ms. Stenbro advised it was for
Jeffersonville only.
Susan West who resides on Penn Street advised that her and her family have lived here for 25 years
and now her son is looking to buy his first home. By the time he is able to set up a viewing, the
houses are sold. There are not a lot of empty homes in Jeffersonville, which is a good thing. She is
in favor of the moratorium for one year for short term rentals. She is also in favor of no new taxes
for anyone. She thinks the short-term rentals already have a tax in there. She would like the short-
term rentals, no matter what group they are with, to register with the City so the City knows where
they are. Also if the police department is called to that residence for an emergency and no one
answers, they need a name and phone number to reach the owners at that time instead of waiting
until the next day.
Fran Evola who resides on Artic Springs advised that she used to live on Court Ave and ran an Airbnb
out of her house which was owner occupied. She rented out part of her house, which at that time
the City had no regulations as long as the neighbors did not complain, and has done the same thing
since living on Artic Springs. All of a sudden there are 4-5 Airbnb's on her street alone. Her concern
with having that many is a neighborhood is at its safest when you know your neighbors, what kind of
car they drive, what their animals look like and so on. With all of the Airbnb's going in, she feels
their neighborhoods are not as safe as they use to be. She is in favor of the moratorium and would
like to know what the penalty is if someone decided to open an Airbnb anyway. As far as taxes, she
never had to collect or pay in any taxes, the Airbnb organization collects money for each night out of
what Ms. Evola would receive, but it was her responsibility to pay income taxes, so she feels that the
City is missing out. There's also no inspection process. Ms. Evola also advised that Bed and
Breakfasts are under different regulations and are required to have inspections.
Councilperson Semones thanked everyone for coming to the meeting and voicing their concerns.
This was a good starting point for discussion and an issue that the City should spend some time
looking at. Lots of good points were raised both in their concerns and in their requests. She advised
she had stayed in a short term rental recently and enjoyed it, but never thought about it from the
perspective of the neighbors who see them come and go. She appreciated the opportunity to get
the perspective from people who live in neighborhoods with short term rentals. This has already
sparked a lively conversation among her colleagues and some members of city government. She
feels this was a good starting conversation and looks forward to continuing the discussion to evolve
best practices that can address the needs of both the residents and the travelers. Councilperson
Stoner agreed with Councilperson Semones and thanked all of the citizens for coming forward with
their concerns. He would like to encourage the Council to discuss the permitting and inspection
process and also how to contact the short term rental property owners. Maybe they need to reach
out to Louisville or other municipalities who has dealt with these issues. There needs to be a way to
communicate with those short term rental platforms to let them know of the ordinance that will be
passed, so they are able to have accountability on their end. It needs to be determined how that
process is going to work, if it will come directly from the City Council Attorney or from an Executive
position. He believes most residents want the moratorium and to see an immediate stop on the
Airbnb's so they are able to study the issue and find a long term solution. He also feels that this
cannot happen without having a conversation about Code Enforcement Officers having the ability to
manage the permit system. Councilperson Snelling asked how many Code Enforcement Officers the
City has. It was advised that there are 2 Code Enforcement Officers. Building Commissioner Larry
Wallace advised there are 2 Code Enforcement Officers and 4 Inspectors and they get very few calls
for inspections or permitting on Airbnb's unless there was a remodel job and they are there doing
inspections already. Councilperson Stoner advised that the 330 number of short term rentals was
only for Airbnb's. Jeffersonville has surged to somewhere between 51,000 and 53,000 people. With
all of the new businesses and the growing population, he feels the City of Jeffersonville needs to
address the personnel need immediately. In 2023 alone, 250 new single family homes, 133
accessory structures and 197 fences were added. This year(2024) to date there have been 159 new
single family homes permits have been issued with approximately 279 more expected along with
149 fences. He asked Mr. Wallace if there were only 2 Code Enforcement Officers to cover that
work load. Mr. Wallace advised, yes. Mr. Wallace advised there are 4 total employees on the
Building Commission, himself, Mary Frye, Bing Lovan and Kailey. Mary and Linda split up the week
and go out to help with the heavy load. Linda is over the permits and Code Enforcement.The office
personnel is stretched thin. Councilperson Stoner asked Mr. Wallace if his office was strained, he
advised yes. Mr. Wallace advised that he has been here for 23 years and have had the same amount
of personnel every since. Councilperson Stoner has spoken with a few other cities comparable to
Jeffersonville and they have 5 code enforcement officers and still struggle with staying ahead. If it
was totally up to him, he would push to have this taken care of immediately. Mr. Wallace advised
Meta alone is going to be a huge undertaking. They are asking if there will be an inspector there at
all times. Mr. Wallace advised them that would not be possible. Harold met with the electrician
today, they are planning on pouring footers in the ground August 1st, 2024. Councilperson Stoner
asked Mr. Wallace, when it comes to something like short term rentals, if he felt like he already had
such an increased workload, and a new permitting system for Airbnb's were added, if would that put
additional strain on his department, Mr. Wallace advised, yes. Councilperson Stoner advised with all
of the growth, there needs to be more personnel to cover that growth. He does support the
moratorium. It is a good idea to get an immediate stop and then figure out the long term solution.
Council President White asked Mr. Wallace what kind of inspections other than plumbing his
department has. Mr. Wallace advised there is plumbing and heating done by Jeremy, Harold does
electrical, Mike's Kruer does framing and Larry fills in when anyone is out. Council President White
clarified that they are not Code Enforcement Officers. Mr. Wallace advised that is correct. Each
inspector will go out at least 2 to 3 times for each new single family construction, residential and
commercial. Commercial projects are much more involved. Councilperson Burns asked if each
inspector goes out 2-3 times on each construction. Mr. Wallace advised, yes. Councilperson Burns
advised that he has worked with great inspectors. Mr. Wallace advised that on Commercial
Inspections, the Fire Department also goes out on the inspections with them. Council President
White advised that Code Enforcement has nothing to do with this process. Code Enforcement would
handle projects that require permits to make sure someone is able to do business or live in a home.
Council Vice President Hawkins advised that if there was a permit given, then Code Enforcement
would go out on a typical Airbnb because someone is not building that, they are buying an old house
and fixing it up, painting it, turning it into to an Airbnb, most of the stuff that they do, they wouldn't
even call for an inspection, would they, unless they are messing with the electrical panel or
plumbing. Mr. Wallace advised, that is correct. Council Vice President Hawkins asked if it is the
Code Enforcement Office that action needs to be taken or is it the Inspectors office. Mr. Wallace
advised it would need to be the inspectors. Chad Reischl-Planning and Zoning Director advised that
most of the Code Enforcement would fall under his department as a zoning issue, not a life safety or
property issue. If it was an issue of someone owning an Airbnb not cutting the grass, that would go
to Larry's department. A registry program would go to Mr. Reischl department because it would be
a zoning issue. The Building Commission, Planning and Zoning and Code Enforcement work together
to solve issues. Councilperson Stoner asked again, if there was a permit process put in place for the
Airbnb's, would that put a strain on their department. Mr. Reischl advised, yes it would put a strain
on his department. The biggest issue is finding all of the addresses and sorting out who is running
the Airbnb's at any given address. There are companies out there that can get that information for
us, there is a cost to this. You need to know where they all are. The only way to figure that out
would to go through the Airbnb's and VRBO and any other site platforms and individually write
down every single one of them, there is not enough staff time that would be available to do that
kind of work. There is so much data that needs to be collected and analyzed before anything can be
enforced. A registry is one thing, but if there is 20-30 cases a year coming to BZA, that creates a
huge amount of work for his department. Council President White asked if special exception would
go to BZA and not Plan Commission. Mr. Reischl advised, that is correct. The special exception and
variances go to BZA, Mr. Reischl advised that is correct. Council President White asked if these
companies received a letter from your office, would Airbnb and VRBO send you a list of people in
this area code or a list of addressed. Mr. Reischl advised, he does not know the answer to that. Mr.
Reischl advised he spoke with a company that compiles that information, it was called Granicus.
They sweep all the platforms and create a snapshot. They can create snapshots of their community.
He took a snapshot of this communities previous month and said there was indeed 330 listings in
the city of Jeffersonville. When looking at this list, that would include people that have their house
up for sale, people renting their house for Derby or big festivals. Under Indiana Statute, in Indiana, if
you own your house and rent it out while residing in that house, nothing can be done. The only
exception would be a non-owner occupied someone from Naples, Florida, someone from Nevada,
someone from Louisville buying a house over here and renting it out and living elsewhere. One thing
that would have to be figured out and sort through is finding out who is actually living and selling
the unit versus who is not living and selling the unit. Councilperson Semones asked Mr. Reischl if he
got a quote from the company that he spoke with. Mr. Reischl advised they are working on a quote
for him.They have software and monthly updates that they can provide. It is easy to put a
moratorium on a gas station because he knows when it is under construction, whereas when a
house is being turned into an Airbnb, it's not so obvious. Council President White would hope that if
a moratorium is set in place and it's sent to those platforms, they will cooperate and not register any
new ones. Mr. Reischl advised that he would not put that much faith in Airbnb or VRBO.
Councilperson Stoner advised that they have to comply by the rules. Again he feels that there needs
to be discussion with other municipalities that have done this and get their input. Councilperson
Reed advised this has been a great conversation and our community is leading a concern that is
meaningful to them and bringing it up so that we can work through that process. She feels this is
something that could be handled through a committee, so that information could be gathered.
Council President White advised he would like to see the Council handle this together. City Council
Attorney Larry Wilder advised,just so everyone understands they would be capped at$150.00 one
time per owner per Airbnb. The only way they would get any more money would be if the owner
sold their Airbnb. So if there are 300 and they charge $150.00 it would be $45,000.00. Council Vice
President Hawkins advised there are thousands of questions going through his mind, a committee
would be a good if that would be the will of everyone else. His thought on a moratorium is that if it
take effect on August 1, by the end of July there will be 8,000 people register for Airbnb's. He is not
against the moratorium, but is fearful of the unintended consequences. Councilperson Stoner
advised as the moratorium is currently written it would take effect immediately upon the adoption
of this ordinance and expire in 365 days unless terminated or extended by further action by the
Council. He reaffirmed that he was in support of the moratorium. The Indiana legislature has given
the local municipalities the authority to implement a permit process for both owner occupied and
non-owner occupied short term rental properties. Whereas the Council desired to initiate and
consider a proposal to amend the Jeffersonville Zoning Ordinance to regulate non-owner occupied
short term rental property. Essentially they would be doing this moratorium so that they can have
the time to study and do a committee as Councilperson Reed has suggested, which he agrees with
and making sure that they are listening to all of the people that need to be included on this
discussion such as Planning and Zoning, Building Commissioner and Plan commission. He thinks this
needs to be done now. Council President White asked if this Ordinance would have to have three
readings, Mr. Wilder advised yes. Council President White asked, knowing that, how the Council felt
about passing this on the first reading due to this happening quickly, having two versions of the
moratorium and the hesitation from some. Councilperson Semones would said she would like to
table it and feels they are nowhere near the end of the conversation.
Councilperson Semones made a motion to table the Ordinance for the short term Airbnb/VRBO until
the August 5, 2024 Council Meeting. She would not be in favor of a moratorium today. Council
President White asked for clarification: to table it until the July 15 meeting or August 5 meeting.
Councilperson Semones advised August 5 due to her not being at the July 15 meeting.
Councilperson Burns seconded the motion.
Councilperson Stoner advised he is struggling to understand, he thinks they want to do the
moratorium because it's sort of like the Wild, Wild West right now with how this is happening in the
city and asked Director Reischl if he agreed. Mr. Reischl advised he would agree. When Mr. Reischl
spoke with the gentleman at Granicus he suggested that in the past year alone Jeffersonville has
added close to a hundred new listings. The number of calls that he receives is growing and the
number of units are growing at a fast rate. He thinks that is a growing concern and that it's
something that needs to be thought about and needs to be studied, but also be rash about.
Councilperson Stoner said he agreed with Councilperson Semones about not being close to the end
of the conversation regarding this, but he feels the moratorium would help to come up with a
solution. Councilperson Semones advised she understands the concerns of the constituents that are
here today, however, she would like to gather more information so that she can verify the data that
has been presented today and look at some other things. She understands that if a temporary
moratorium was done today, they could come back and ask Council President White to amend it at a
later time. Council President White advised there is a motion to table the matter. Councilperson
Stoner advised he would like to see this passed on the First Reading, giving the Council additional
time to research to see if there are changes that needed to be made to the Ordinance presented
and to take into consideration how the community feels along with the experts' opinions.
Councilperson Reed asked for a point of clarification. With the ordinance before them today, is it
clear that this will affect any short term office space rental options. They have some shared working
space options that repurposed older buildings and they have done a really great job of repurposing
those older buildings into shared working spaces. Does this Ordinance affect those office spaces?
Mr. Reischl advised this Ordinance is for housing and would not have an impact on those spaces.
Councilperson Burns said he is not against the moratorium or against coming up with some kind of
rules or regulations but agreed with Councilperson Semones they needed more information. If
someone closes on a property today and is planning on turning it into an Airbnb, how would that
affect that persons decision with the Ordinance being passed on the First Reading tonight.
Councilperson Semones advised that the point the Councilperson Burns brought up a notice being
issued was a good one. Notice to the public and an opportunity for all sides to be heard is
important. This Ordinance was not on the agenda, in fact there are 2 versions of this Ordinance
floating around so she is not sure they all are talking about the same thing. It has not been
published, which would be the important way to move forward. Council President White advised
there are two versions floating around, it was not in the packet that went out to the public or to the
media. If something is going to be done, it needs to be done in a thoughtful and appropriate way.
Councilperson Snelling said he agrees with Council Vice President Hawkins; if something is not done,
there are going to be a lot of owners in the next month or so to turn their property into Airbnb's.
Council Vice President Hawkins said he is not against the moratorium but is afraid of the unintended
consequences. He is going to vote to table this just because he has many questions that cannot be
addressed tonight. Councilperson Webb said he agreed there needs to be a moratorium, there are a
lot of problems out there, but more information needs to be gotten before the moratorium
happens. Councilperson Reed agreed and said the public has voiced this is a problem and as public
servants they want to do what is best for the public and their neighborhoods, but they also want to
do what is right for property owners. She would support Councilperson Stoner on leading up a
committee to bring the data to the Council to make an informed correct decision. Councilperson
Stoner asked if there be a difference from passing this Ordinance on the first reading today and then
still doing that same due diligence that is being discussed and coming back at the next meeting and
making edits. Council Vice President Hawkins advised that this could be passed on the on the first
and second reading but it would not slow anything down or making anything faster. Councilperson
Burns advised that everyone has heard that there are two version of the Ordinance floating around,
just received information today. They are generally a Council that tries to do things right the first
time and not just pass something to pass it. Councilperson Semones advised the answer to
Councilperson Stoner question is no; either way ends up at the same place. Councilperson Stoner
advised he does not think a Council committee alone can do what needs to be done. In the
Ordinance, section 8, it states the Planning and Zoning Department is hereby directed to diligently
proceed with consideration of an amendment to the Zoning Ordinance to regulate non-owner
occupied short term rental property pursuant to Indian Code 36 1-24-9, that the State Department
to implement a permit process. Councilperson Semones advised that she has a problem with
passing something today that tells Mr. Reischl's department to do something they are not yet
prepared to do and without having a dialogue with them and being respectful of that. Council
President White advised this was done hastily, he tried to get it together quickly and was not done
in a way to give everyone clarity on how to move forward. He advised it is important when
legislating to legislate in appropriate way; legislation should not happen quickly because it effects an
entire city. If we are going to do something that effects the city, we are going to do it right. It should
be done in a thoughtful, methodical way and make sure that we have input from those who are
department head, experts and to figure out how to move forward. Councilperson White advised
Councilperson Semones had made a motion to table this Councilperson Burns seconded the motion.
Councilperson Semones requested a roll call vote:
Councilperson Semones made a motion to table the discussion on the Short Term Rental Properties,
seconded by Councilperson Burns; roll call:
Councilperson Burn-Yes
Councilperson Semones-Y
Councilperson Reed-Y
Council President White-Y
Councilperson Webb-Y
Council Vice President Hawkins-Y
Councilperson Snelling-Y
Councilperson Stoner-N; motion passed 7-1.
2. Donna Reed-City Council Youth Advisor/Advocate, IUS Scholarship Opportunity
Councilperson Reed advised the City Council Youth Advisor will be launching the application for the
first Youth Advocate position. This position is being put together by the community because it take a
community to raise and mentor the next generation of community leaders. Chancellor Ford from
Indiana University Southeast thanked Councilperson Reed for her leadership on the initiative to
bring the Youth Advocate program to Jeffersonville. She advised that they believe in the power of
partnership and look forward to implementing this program and helping a youth advocate find a
way to attend Indiana University Southeast. They will be offering a four year, $500.00 scholarship to
the youth advocates and promises to support them because as you see their leadership potential
and help them understand how government work as future students and graduates of Indiana
University Southeast. Council President White thanked Chancellor Ford and welcomed her back to
meet the Youth Advocate that is chosen. Wendy Dant Chesser advised at this time in our country
when supporting the young people in government has never been more critical than it is now. As
we open eyes to what goes on in our government process, providing a stipend to ensure that the
students can get here for their meetings was important to her, so she would like to offer her support
of a $200.00 travel stipend. Council President White thanked her for her support and welcomes her
back to meet the Youth Advocate that is chosen. Councilperson Reed advised that the application is
open and all of the Council will be getting access to the backend to review those applications. It will
be open for 6 weeks, closing on August 12, 2024, at that time we will get the Council's feedback.
Then Council President White will appoint the first youth council advocate.
ATTORNEY COMMENTS:
Larry Wilder-He feels the choice that was made over the moratorium was a well thought choice. This is
a complicated state statute that they have to maneuver around.
Les Merkley-Absent
DEPARTMENT HEADS
Larry Wallace-Building Commissioner-requesting to hire a new Building Inspector and Code
Enforcement Officer with the way the City is growing and all the work being done in the River Ridge
area, they are backed up. Council President White asked if Mr. Wallace had talked to HR about the
request. Mr. Wallace advised he was told to ask the Council. Councilperson Stoner asked when the last
time a new employee was added in his office. Mr. Wallace said he started in 2001 and there has not
been any new positions created since that time. Councilperson Stoner advised he would be in favor of
hiring 2 new positions and will speak further with Heather about the process. Councilperson Semones
advised she does not know the process to create a new position, but would be happy to inquire about it.
Councilperson Stoner advised that he has a copy of a letter from Mr. Wallace that he will pass around to
the Council. Council Vice President Hawkins asked Mr. Wallace if he hopes that these 2 positions would
be filled as soon as possible if approved. Mr. Wallace advised that their office is in need of an
administrative person that would also go out and collect signs out of easements as needed when they
are caught up in the office,the Street Department does not do that. Both Mary and Linda fill in where
they are needed which takes away from their jobs at times. There was an online system put in about 2
years ago that allows builders to go onto and pay for their permits and schedule inspections.
Councilperson Reed asked if this request was part of the Capital Improvement Plan. Council President
White advised that the Capital Improvement Plan did not include the need for manpower. Mr. Wallace
advised that he had the Salary Ordinance for the Inspector and Code Enforcement Officer that can be
passed around with the letter that Councilperson Stoner has.
Councilperson Stoner asked Mrs. Metcalf about the Mobile Command Center and how that was going to
be paid for, did the last Council decide how to pay for it. Mrs. Metcalf advised that there were multiple
options discussed as far as paying for the Mobile Command Center with the last Council, but a final
decision had not been made. It was approved to be ordered. It had been discussed to put some monies
down and finance the rest. Councilperson Stoner asked if anyone remembered when it was approved,
no one was sure. Councilperson Snelling asked Council Attorney Wilder for clarification: the last Council
approved the Command Center which came back for this Council to handle, then last meeting the
Assistant Police Chief inquired about a 4-5 years plan regarding the Taser program that the Council could
not approve due to the contract being too long. Mr. Wilder advised he gave the same advice to the last
Council and they chose to go the way they did and the consequences of that could be that the new
Council could choose not to spend the money then get sued. Councilperson Stoner asked Mr. Wilder if
he advised them not to do that. Mr. Wilder advised Councilperson Stoner, there will be a lot of advice
that he will give that will not be liked. Council President White said it was explained in the last meeting
that historically department heads would come before the Council whenever there was a major
purchase that needed to be made, to let the Council know that it would be taken to Board of Public
Works and if the Council had concerns or did not think it was necessary, then it would not be presented
to Board of Public Works, if the Council did not have any concerns, then it would be taken before the
Board of Public Works. The Council cannot approve or deny those contracts. In most major purchases
such as Fire Trucks or Command Centers, they have to be ordered many months in advance due to it
taking up to 38 months to build a Fire Truck.JFD Chief Grant advised there is a 36 months lead time
before they can ever start to build a truck, so they have to wait 3 years before they do so, it was the
same way with the Mobile Command Center. The previous Council approved it, but he worked together
with the Police Officers on the Command Center. They can only give the Council what they need and
then the Council approves to fund it or not. Chief Grant advised they are at the mercy of the companies
that are building them and the City is not the only entity in this country that are buying. There is a
backlog on the mobile command as well as the fire trucks.
PUBLIC COMMENTS
No Comments
COUNCIL COMMENTS:
• Councilperson Burns—there was some healthy conversations regarding the short-term housing
and he looks forward to working with the committee and meeting with the owners and having
conversations with the Council. He would like to be on that committee and feels it needs to be
established sooner than later. He received his first call regarding the Fireworks Ordinance
today. The latest Ordinance is dated 2017. Councilperson's Burns and Semones chatted briefly
and he feels the Ordinance needs to be updated and time periods for fireworks to be shortened.
After this holiday he would like to see this addressed by forming a committee or draft for
review.
• Councilperson Semones-Happy 4th of July, she is blessed to have had Juneteenth, the 4th of July
which makes America so great. Thanks to Jeff Cover for leading the invocation. Mr. Cover and
she are seeing what they can do to make Jeffersonville a Tree City USA, so that's some fun green
stuff in the works. She is also working with the Soil District on some fun green ordinances. She
will be out for the meeting on July 15, 2024. She appreciates the discussion in regards to the
short-term rentals and has made her think about things in a different perspective.
Councilperson Semones recognized Councilperson Reed for all the hard work on the Youth
Advisor Program, not only did she take a law that existed that wasn't being implemented here
to bring in the voice of our time constituents, but the level of professionalism that she has
shown in putting together the platforms, the materials so that we all can not only support that
here, but by spreading the word in our community. Grateful for a community that can come
together, that when there are issues, the elected officials will come together to support the
youth in different ways.
• Councilperson Anderson—Absent
• Councilperson Reed—grateful for the upcoming 4th of July and the float for the City Council,
everyone is invited to participate. Parade starts at 10:00 am on Main and Spring Street by the
Main Street Association.
• Councilperson Webb—thanks to Councilperson Stoner for bringing the issues of Airbnb's to
light, it is a great topic, don't get discouraged that it was tabled because he was torn about it, he
just feels it needs to be discussed more, he had no idea there were that many Airbnb's in our
community.
• Council Vice President Hawkins—Happy 4th of July. Thanks to Councilperson Stoner for bringing
up the Airbnb's, he thinks they will come up with something that works for people, it will take
time. Thanks to Councilperson Reed on her hard work on the Youth Advisory, he has student in
mind already to have them to look into it.
• Councilperson Snelling— Thanks to Councilperson Stoner for bringing up the issues with the
Airbnb's, we will all come together and get it figured out.
• Councilperson Stoner—respects everyone's thoughts on the Airbnb discussion. Councilperson
Stoner asked Mr. Wilder if there was a legal reason that Council members could not have a key
to Council chambers, Mr. Wilder advised that would be something to discuss with the Building
Authority. Mr. Stoner asked if there is a state statute against Council members having a key to
Council Chambers, Mr. Wilder advised, no, advised him to speak with the Building
Commissioner. Councilperson Stoner advised there is an update on the homeless situation and
would like it to be put on the agenda for July 15, 2024 Council meeting. He had a conversation
with Ms. Metcalf regarding the Economic Development Abatement, money that the City
receives annually from companies that were given the abatements. The current balance is
$447,470.79. This is money that the Council controls and can be spent on Economic
Development projects around the city. He thinks reinvesting this money into to community
would be great. He had brought up some concerns regarding personnel issues within the City,
with the continued growth and the expansion of parks, facilities and new projects, we are not
expanding personnel to cover this increase. He is committed to bringing this issue to light.
• Council President White—Thanks to everyone for the lively discussion on the Airbnb issue. The
request for more staffing is the first time since he has been on Council, look forward to continue
that discussion. There is 1.2 to 1.4 million dollars that the City receives annually. The question
then becomes, how we pay for additional personnel. There has been a fire study for the fire
territory, were looking to see how that comes about. If that happens, that may be some relief.
We are doing the property tax levy appeal. We are doing these things to see if we are able to
access additional revenue, so that we can grow, as the City has grown with personnel across the
board. Once we get numbers, then we can decide what we want to do with it. That is in the
works and that will depend on the council's pace. Happy 4th of July.
ADJOURNMENT:
Councilperson Burns made the motion to ADJOURN the meeting at 7:35 p.m.
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Dustin White, Council President ATTEST: Li a Gill, Clerk
CITY OF JEFFERSONVILLE
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Building Commission: Strengthening Our Team for a Growing City
Current Team Structure:
• Building Commissioner: Oversees office/City Hall routine maintenance and assists with
daily inspections. Monitors City Hall fire alarm/security 24 hours 7 days a week.
• Electrical Inspector
• HVAC/Plumbing Inspector
• Building Inspector
• 2 Code Enforcement Officers: Handle daily complaints, grass, signs, and various other
issues.
• 1 Code Enforcement Supervisor/Permit Clerk: Issues all permits,manages billing, and
files/releases liens.
• 1 Administrative Assistant II: Assists with all tasks, including accounts payable and
code enforcement, and conducts fieldwork.
• 1 Administrative Assistant I: Greets customers, registers contractors across various
specialties.
Context and Rationale for Expansion:
The Building Commission has not expanded its workforce in approximately 20 years. This has
resulted in a significant strain on our current staff as the city continues to grow and develop.
Consider the following points:
1. City Growth:
o The population has surged to approximately 51,000 residents.
o New construction projects include multiple apartment complexes and
neighborhoods.
o Significant developments in the River Ridge area, including major projects like
Meta and a Solar Energy Company.
2. Increased Workload:
o In 2023,the city saw 250 new single-family homes, 133 accessory structures, and
197 fences.
o In 2024, so far, 159 new single-family permits have been issued, with
approximately 279 more expected, along with 149 fences issued this year.
3. Daily Operations:
o Code enforcement officers handle 15-20 inspections daily, each requiring a visual
inspection,photographs, documentation, and potentially contacting property
owners.
o Responsibilities also include removing unauthorized signs from easements,
corners, and telephone poles, tagging and towing of inoperable vehicles.
4. Geographical Coverage:
o The two current code enforcement officers cover extensive miles within our city,
managing not only complaints but also the maintenance of newly created
detention basins in residential and commercial areas.
CITY OF JEFFERSONVILLE
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Inspection Demands:
• Single-family inspections: Building(footer, framing, final), Electric(temporary, rough-
in, permanent service, final), Plumbing(ground rough, rough-in, final), HVAC (rough-in,
final).
• Multi-family inspections: Each building requires multiple inspections from the ground
up, including clubhouses,pools, and garages.
• Industrial inspections: Expansive developments like Meta and other River Ridge
projects require timely and frequent inspections.
Conclusion and Request:
Given the outlined growth and increasing demands,the need for an additional inspector and an
office administrator/code enforcement officer is clear. This expansion is essential to maintain the
high standards of service and safety our community expects and deserves.
We urge the City Council to support this proposal to ensure our Building Commission can
effectively manage the city's growth and uphold its commitment to the community.
Thank you for your consideration.
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